
During his first term President Donald Trump adopted a vacillating stance toward Iran—initially issuing threats and then suggesting diplomatic negotiations. In this video guest host Misty Winston and Jimmy talk to antiwar.com’s Scott Horton...
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Jimmy Dore
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Keaton
Hi, this is the Jimmy Dore Show, Keaton speaking. Who's calling, please?
Andrew Cuomo
Hello, Keaton.
This is former New York Governor and future New York City mayor Andrew Cuomo. How are you today, sir?
Keaton
Well, I'm doing just fine, thanks for asking. How about you? You're sounding rather chipper, Keaton.
Andrew Cuomo
Chipper is exactly what I am. It's the perfect word. I'm chipper. Like a little happy bird with a giant pair of fucking balls.
Keaton
I see. What? Well, why this good mood?
Andrew Cuomo
Well, Keaton, I will be honest with you. I started out this mayoral race with such a sizable lead over my challengers and that I thought I had this whole thing in the bag. Well, I readily admit. Turns out that was some serious hubris on my part.
Keaton
Yes, it was.
Andrew Cuomo
I seriously underestimated the amount of support an anti Semite named Zoran Mamdami could possibly draw in the five boroughs. I honestly did not see that coming. And that was a mistake on my.
Keaton
Part, that's for sure.
Andrew Cuomo
Okay. Quit agreeing with me when I'm being self critical. Thank you. Things were getting a little too close for comfort in the polls. My campaign was firing at him with the pro Israel cannon with both barrels, but he still kept rising. We honestly, for the first time, thought maybe we could lose this thing.
Keaton
Huh?
Andrew Cuomo
But then today, a miracle happened. Did you see it, Keaton? Did you see the miracle? The New York miracle?
Keaton
No, I must have missed it. What happened?
Andrew Cuomo
Zoltan, or whatever his name is, was giving a press conference in front of cameras defending his use of the term global intifada and responding to accusations of antisemitism from the Holocaust Museum itself. If those optics weren't bad enough on their own, I guess it was all too much for the young man because he started to cry on camera.
Scott Horton
Oh, wow.
Andrew Cuomo
He cried on camera in New York.
City while running for mayor of New York City. He cried like a fucking baby. A Middle Eastern, anti Semitic baby.
Keaton
Oh, that's something.
Andrew Cuomo
Yes, Keaton, that is something. That something is me fucking winning the race now because he's done. He's over. It's all over. Say goodbye. Whatever goodbye is in Arabic, say it.
Keaton
You seem pretty confident.
Andrew Cuomo
Keaton. This is New York City. There's no crying in New York politics. He couldn't handle criticism. That's what starts the waterworks with this fucking guy. It just shows no Stamina, no backbone. It's fucking pathetic. Yeah, but more importantly, it's a man crying for any reason. This isn't Portland. That is not allowed here. First of all, he can kiss the Latin vote goodbye. In that culture, he's not a man anymore. Alienating the Latin vote, probably not a good move for a leftist candidate. Those people tend to prefer men with fucking cojones, Right? Not to mention just women in general. Even leftist women. Keaton, let me tell you something about women, okay? Women say they want a man who's sensitive, who's vulnerable, who's not afraid to express emotion. But when they actually see a man cry, it gives them the ick.
Keaton
The ick?
Andrew Cuomo
The ick. A visceral revulsion to that man. Primal, fundamental. All that rhetoric goes out the window in a second. It's evolutionary. This man is fucking crying right now. We're all going to get eaten by a saber toothed tiger because of this crybaby pussy. So Voltron Ahmadinejad, or whatever his name is, just gave every woman in New York City the ick.
Keaton
Every time I cry in front of my girlfriend, she says, you make me sick, and leaves the room. And then I wet my pants.
Andrew Cuomo
Okay, Keaton, that's probably more than I needed to know. But you know what I'm talking about. Clearly. So without the woman vote or the Latin vote, this bozo has no chance.
It's over.
Keaton
I don't know what I ever did to you. Well, I think we'll have to wait and see.
Andrew Cuomo
Not really. Not really. I think we can see now, Keaton. Taj Mahal or whatever his name is, said boo hoo hoo on the tv. And now his little jihad against me is over.
Keaton
Lord, could you be more xenophobic or anti Muslim?
Andrew Cuomo
Yes. An unqualified yes. You have no fucking idea. But if he drops out now, New York won't have to fully see that side of me. Just saying.
Keaton
All right, well, thanks once again for calling the Jimmy Dore show to gloat.
Andrew Cuomo
My pleasure, Keaton. And I'll do it again next week when Jimmy is back, because he loves to hear me gloat. And like me, he likes to make fun of men who cry. I know you're listening, Jimmy, over in Liechtenstein or wherever you are right now, I'm gonna. I'm gonna cry if I know talking to you next week.
Boo hoo.
Just kidding. I'm a fucking bull. I'll leave it there cheap.
Keaton
All right.
Scott Horton
Establishment media sucks August Lightin, so good luck. Bullshit. We can't afford momenting this watch and see as his jack off the medium speeds and jumps the medium and hits them head on. It's the Chimney Door show.
Guest Host
And we actually have our next segment here. Our, our next guest has showed up and I'm very excited to have him because he is really one of the, in my opinion, one of the most important anti war voices that we have. And he is a wealth of information and knowledge on the whole situation, the history and all of. So we are joined now by Scott Horton. Scott is the director of the Libertarian Institute. He's the editorial director of Anti War.com host of the Scott Horton show, and author of such books. Let me pull up his, this is his Twitter page here. But he's author of such books as Fool's Aaron, Time to End the War in Afghanistan. Enough already. Time to End the War on Terrorism. And his latest, which is called Provoked How Washington Started the New Cold War with Russia and the Catastrophe in Ukraine. So, Scott Horton, thank you so much for joining us, my friend. I appreciate, I know you're there at Pork Fest, so I appreciate you taking some time out of your day to join us here on the Jimmy Dore Show.
Scott Horton
I'm happy to be here with you guys. Thank you very much for having me.
Guest Host
Yeah, of course. And, and when I, when Jimmy asked me to guest host the show, I immediately thought of you, given the situation that we are in currently, because you are a wealth of knowledge on all things foreign policy. And so I wanted to, let me get that. There we go. I wanted to get your take on all of this. So I wanted to kind of we're going to kind of break this up into a couple different segments. So I want to start with a little bit of what Jimmy was just talking about there. Wanted to talk about a little bit of the history here because Jimmy just mentioned that, you know, 1953, we overthrew Mosaddeg. And then that really, to your mind, is that really what kicked off this whole the modern situation that we're in with Iran?
Scott Horton
Yes, ma' am. Absolutely. You know, my book Enough Already basically starts with the Iranian Revolution, 1979, in other words, the coup in 1953. And of course, what happened was America launched Operation Ajax. And there's a great CIA history of this by a guy named Donald Wilbur that people can read all about how they did it and everything. And this is when the phrase blowback was coined. It was coined by Wilbur in that history and warned about, you know, the potential of blowback coming down the line from operations like this. And it was 26 years later. Wait, how much time do we have to tell this story?
Guest Host
I mean, I know we could let Scott talk for two hours and he would educate us all.
Scott Horton
So I'm talking.
Guest Host
Go into it.
Scott Horton
I'll talk fast. I'll talk fast. So listen, I like telling this story. I'll try to make it concise. In the aftermath of the Vietnam War, Dick Cheney, I mean, I get him confused. Richard Nixon had a problem, which was the military industrial complex was mad at him for ending the war. And so he decided what he would do is he would put pressure on the Shah in to increase weapons purchases from the United States. It was one of the things that really helped weaken his regime in the 1970s was his sellout to the United States like this in a very poor country. And now he's got all these fancy F4s and F14s, which is why he has F4. They have F4s and F14s to this day, is because of that. And that really helped undermine, you know, support for his regime at that time. Now he was dying of cancer and revolution was breaking out. He had already fled the country and was in Latin America. And Jimmy Carter's government decided that they would not encourage the military to massacre everybody in the street, but would instead essentially allow the revolution to proceed. And the CIA and the State Department advised the White House that this guy Khomeini, who's in exile in Paris, France, who had been living in Iraq for a while and then had moved to Paris, we like him. We know him. He's a friend of ours from back in 53 when he was a group, part of a group of conservative Shiite clerics who helped agitate against Mossadegh. So we think we can work with him. It'll be okay. So you might have seen Peter Jennings interviewing Ayatollah Khomeini on the plane on the way back to Tehran. That was what was going on there. Jimmy Carter told the French to send him home to inherit the revolution. And most people never understand this, they never say this, that the original revolution was at the end of 78 and beginning of 79, really culminating in February of 79. The hostage crisis didn't break out until November. So for the first 10 months of the revolution, the United States was passing intelligence to the ayatollah. The regime had kept their old intelligence agency intact and much of the government intact. And America was warning them about threats from the Soviet Union and about threats from Saddam Hussein, the new Sunni dictator who had just overthrown his predecessor in A bloody coup d' etat in Iraq that same year. Then what happened was David Rockefeller convinced Jimmy Carter to let the Shah into the United States for cancer treatment. And that sent a signal to the people of Iran unintentionally that we meant to nurse him back to health and reinstall him on the throne with force. And that was what caused the riot. And I'm not saying it was just student led. It may very well have been the Revolutionary Guard Corps who led the thing or what. But that was what touched off the riot and the seizing of the hostages, the burning of our flags, and the chance of death to America, the Great Satan and all the things which are basically the only things that people remember about that revolution when it was blowback from so many blunders from everyone from Eisenhower through Nixon and Ford and including Jimmy Carter himself in the way that they played that thing. And then what happened was in reaction for. Oh, and then I, I need to add, they launched a failed rescue mission called Operation Eagle Claw where they tried to go rescue the hostages. And the whole thing was botched. And on their way out of there, they were already calling it off, aborting the mission. And then a helicopter crashed into a plane and a bunch of guys were killed. And it was a total, you know, disaster. So Carter was humiliated. So then in his State of the Union speech In January of 1980, he announced the Carter Doctrine. And the Carter Doctrine was mostly based around the idea of threatening the Soviet Union, that they better not invade Iran. Even though we just lost control of Iran, we don't. We're still giving them a war guarantee essentially to keep the USSR out. Now, what's interesting about that is part of the reason they were so concerned about that was that at the same time they had helped, the same year 79, they had helped lure the Soviet Union into invading Afghanistan. And it's not really the case that American support for the Mujahedeen caused the USSR to invade, but that's what they were trying to do. And the USSR did invade based on the fact that their sock puppet commie dictator in Kabul was unable to hold on to power there and they needed to replace him. They took him out back and shot him and replaced him with a new guy as soon as they invaded. And then. So America was encouraging Soviet expansion into Afghanistan at the same time that they were warning them, don't come to Iran and the Persian Gulf, though. And part of that is also part of the legacy of Vietnam, because after Vietnam, the American people had what was called the Vietnam Syndrome. They didn't want to go do this anymore. After the horrific war in Korea and in Vietnam, both they did not want to contain communism at the expense of their sons and all their dollars like this. And so what happened was a strategist in the Pentagon named Walter Slocum and Zbigniew Brzezinski came up with the idea that we would deliberately try to encourage the Soviet Union into expanding, forget containment, we'll bait them into expanding their commitments in Latin America, in Africa and Asia, especially into Afghanistan. We didn't want them to invade West Berlin, but we want them. But the Afghans, they're expendable by the way. A million Afghans died in the Soviets horrific war there in the 1980s. And this is where America began backing the Mujahideen not just in Afghanistan, but the Arab Afghan army, the International Islamist Brigades that were built up by the United States, Saudi Arabia and Britain and Pakistan to fight against the Soviet Union in the 1980s. We've all seen Rambo 3 where they make it look more indigenous, but it was CIA support for all of that. Now this all ties together, so bear with me. As part of the Carter Doctrine, Jimmy Carter starts expanding all of his bases into the Middle east. First of all. And he also gives Saddam Hussein the new dictator of Iraq, who as I said had just taken power in a bloody coup, gave him the green light to invade Iran. Now Saddam Hussein had an important reason to invade Iran. Okay? Saddam Hussein was a Sunni representing a 20 minority essentially fascist dictatorship, the Baathist party dictatorship of the country, lording it over the 60 super majority Kurdish, pardon me, the 60% super majority Shiite Arab population and the 20 Kurdish population who live in the north. Now, the Kurds are Sunnis but not Arabs and the Shiite Arabs are Shia. Are Arabs but not Sunnis, Right? You with me? So Saddam is afraid that his super majority Shiite population in the south and east of the country are going to now side with the Iranian fundamentalist Shiite revolution, that they're going to choose their religious sect over their national sect as Iraqis or their ethnic sect as Arabs and they're going to side with the revolution and maybe take it to Baghdad. So Saddam Hussein is afraid of this. This is his motive to invade. He's going to take that Shiite super majority population and conscript them and force them to fight against Iran for him that way to neutralize their threat to him and Iran's threat to using them against him. This is a horrific war which is like a Ukraine, Russia style trench warfare. Absolute brutal, World War I style catastrophe for Iran and Iraq through the 1980s, where America supports Saddam Hussein, including helping him buy chemical weapons from the Germans and develop his capacity to make his own, and including giving him satellite targeting information to use to target Iranian forces, which, yes, included child soldiers, but also included the civilian population centers in Iran with not just mustard gas, but sarin and tab and nerve gas and all of this horrific stuff. It was an absolutely horrific war. And by the way, the Ayatollah's regime was very shaky until Saddam invaded. As Randolph Bourne taught, war is the help of the state. Just like when America started bombing Yemen, they said, we're all Houthis now, even though they weren't. But just the way Americans supported Bush after we were attacked, that's kind of the way that goes. And so that was what helped solidify the Ayatollah's hold on power rather than overthrowing him. Now, at the end of that war, Saddam Hussein was broke and he owed a bunch of money to uae, Bahrain and Kuwait, pardon me, uae, Saudi and Kuwait. And they were all calling in their war debts and they were being real jerks about it, especially the Kuwaitis. And long story short, the State Department essentially gave Saddam Hussein permission to invade Kuwait, to take the northern oil fields to move the border another few tens of miles south as punishment for Kuwait's overproduction of their shared oil wells and even slam drilling into the Iraqi side. And this was James Baker, the Secretary of State's permission to Iraq, go ahead, break their knees, see if I care. But Hussein got too big for his britches and he went all the way to the coast. Now, originally, America was going to let him get away with that. And Colin Powell announced he was the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the head of the National Security Council meeting at the time. And they said, as long as he doesn't move on Saudi Arabia, it's fine. But then Margaret Thatcher came to town, the Prime Minister of Great Britain, and she said, don't you go wobbly on me now. Bush, in other words, calling out his manhood as compared to hers. And that was when he said, this will not stand. Now, the British had big investments in Kuwait and Kuwait had big investments in British debt, but that didn't have anything to do with us. But, oh, well, Americans are just suckers for this kind of stuff. So playing like they're the Israelis or whatever, maybe the Israelis are imitating the British now, this is how they did it. And it helped get us into Iraq War One. And by the way they could have negotiated our way out of that war numerous times. Hussein was willing to give in and trying to be our friend. So anyway, they launch Iraq War one, which everyone says was just great. It was Operation Yellow Ribbon. As Bush Sr. Said, we beat Vietnam syndrome. The American people love war again. Now we can do war whenever we want again. This is just great. And the war lasted just a few weeks of air war and 100 hours of ground war. And everybody thought it was fine. But fewer people noticed that in the aftermath of that war, the Bush administration, BUSH Senior this is 1991, encouraged the Shiite super majority and the Kurdish minority in the north to rise up and overthrow Saddam Hussein. And they did. They thought they were going to have American support. They dropped leaflets and made radio announcements. I'm going somewhere with this, I swear to God. And then. So the Shiites did rise up, but then Bush and his government changed their mind. Why they changed their mind? Because remember when I said Saddam Hussein was afraid that the Iraqi Shiites were going to side with the Iranians in 1980 and that was why he launched the Iran Iraq war? Well, some Iraqis had sided with Iran and had fled to Iran and had even fought on Iran's side in the war. Well, now they were coming across the border to lead the revolution, namely the Bottr Brigade of the Supreme Islamic Council. And so when the Bush administration realized this, they said, wait a minute, we just spent a decade supporting Saddam Hussein to contain the Iranian revolution. Now we are importing it into Iraq. And that was why they changed their mind and stabbed those Shiites in the back like a giant bay of pigs and let Saddam Hussein massacre 100,000 people to put down that revolt. Then that became the excuse for America to stay in Saudi Arabia in order to enforce the no fly zones over Iraq and the blockade against Iraq in order to first of all supposedly protect the Shiites even though the insurrection was over, he wasn't just going to kill them all. And to enforce the blockade, which was meant, as the Bush administration said, Bush Sr. Himself and Robert Gates, who worked for him and the Clinton administration later reaffirmed the sanctions stay, that total global economic embargo stays until Saddam Hussein falls from power. This, my friends, then is what caused Al Qaeda, America's sock puppet, mercenary suicide bomber, head chopper, Salafi terrorists that they used in Afghanistan and then that Bill Clinton used in Bosnia and in Kosovo and in Chechnya. And that is with various degrees of support. I'm not saying, as some people leap to conclusions, that the CIA just controlled these people's every behavior. What they did was they encouraged especially the Saudis to support them and encourage them. And hell, the British had more operational control over a lot of these Mujahideen than the Americans did. But as I show in my book, 10 of 19 September 11, hijackers had fought in Bosnia and or Chechnya on America's side before they hit the United States. Now I know a lot of people watching this are truthers and they're just going to be mad at me for not being one. But I don't care. Because the deal is this. The real truth is what Ron Paul said, just like always. And that is it's blowback because just even though Bill Clinton and his government were supporting these mujahideen did not mean that they controlled everything about them. And Al Qaeda's war against the United States had clear motives and a clear strategy. The clear motives were first and foremost and first and second most, I guess, the occupation of the holy Arabian Peninsula where the birthplace of Muhammad and the birthplace of the religion of Islam at Mecca and Medina, in order to continuously bomb Iraq for the entire decade after Iraq War one and enforce that blockade which was starving people to death by the hundreds of thousands. Even though those numbers were embellished, you know, the UN embellished them up to 500,000, which was not true, but it was still like 300,000, which is already absolutely horrific war crime anyway. Bin Laden himself would embellish it up to 600,000 or sometimes even a million and say a million children have died in the blockade and whatever. And this became. And enforced from Saudi Arabia, which, you know, Tom Cruise could have done it from a carrier in the Gulf. Did it have to be the Air Force too? You know, and by the way, and people forget this Al Qaeda attack, they killed rabbi Kahane in 1990. They attacked the Radisson Hotel and killed Americans in Yemen in 1992. They did the first World Trade center bombing in 93. Ask me a follow up about that later if you want. But it was not an inside job. The FBI could have stopped it, but failed to. But that was Al Qaeda that did that. It was Khalid Sheikh Mohammed's nephew. Ramsay Yousef cooked that bomb, okay? Then they killed Americans training the Saudi national guard in 95. And they also got busted for the Bojinka plot. Ramsay Yousef who did the first World Trade center bombing, his buddies got busted in the Philippines and their laptop contained a plan to kill Bill Clinton, kill the Pope, to time bomb 12 planes over the Pacific and the planes operation to hijack 10 planes and crash them into landmarks on America's coasts. And then Khalid Sheikh Mohammed would get on the microphone and demand an end to the Israeli occupation. Right? This was the, that happened then in 1996, they, it was Bin Laden and colleague Sheikh Mohammed bombed the Khobar Towers. What was that? They killed 19American airmen, American airmen who were stationed there to bomb Iraq. That's who died. And what did Bill Clinton and Louis Free and the Saudis do? They blamed it on Iranian backed Saudi Hezbollah. Right. Iran did it for no reason at all from across the Gulf when they're trying to suck up to us at that time. And so that was a lie. It was the Al Qaeda that did that. And then they did the Africa embassy attack in 98 and they attempted to sink, to attack one of our cruisers, the uss, the Sullivans, except the dinghy sank. But then they succeeded in their attack on the USS Cole in the year 2000. That wasn't the CIA that did all of that, folks. That was Al Qaeda that was trying to bait the United States into war. In fact, I skipped one. It was Bin Laden's men who helped do Black hawk down in 1993 and kill the Americans in Mogadishu. And Bin Laden later complained he was trying to provoke Bill Clinton into invading Somalia so he could fight a war of attrition against the United States there. The same Afghan strategy that they, that we had helped them do to the Soviets that they would later do to us in Afghanistan. And so their motives were American occupation of Saudi and bombing Iraqis. It was support for Israel and their brutal occupation of their helpless Palestinian captives as well as the people of southern Lebanon. And it was also support for the dictatorships in the region and pressure on them to rig the oil price in our favor to subsidize our economy at their expense. And supposedly ignoring a blind eye to Russia and China's violence against them, which was ridiculous, we're supporting them against both. America supported the Uyghurs against the Chinese during this time as well. Don't let me leave that out. So this was their motive. And their strategy was they were trying to get America to invade Afghanistan to break America's empire the same way we had helped them do to the Soviet Union. And that's why they hit us on September 11th. And quite frankly, the truth is obscure. The reality of all that. That what, what honestly, this is the story, okay, is that Mohammed Atta and Ramzi bin Al Sheb, they were engineering students, Egyptian engineering students, studying in Hamburg, Germany. And after Israel invaded Lebanon in 1996, it was actually Naftali Bennett, who was the artillery officer who called in a strike on a UN shelter and killed 106 women and children. And when bin Laden put out his first declaration of war against the United States in 1996, it was called declaration of war against the Americans occupying the land of the two holy places. And in the very beginning of it, he goes on and on about the Khana massacre during operation Grapes of Wrath. And it was when Ramsay bin Al Sheb and Mohammed Atta read that that they said they wanted to go and join Al Qaeda. And the first. Their first stop was to try to go to Chechnya. They later went to Afghanistan. And then having western passports, they were the obvious guys to use for the planes operation in the United States. And so here are Egyptian engineering students studying in Hamburg, Germany, volunteer for a Saudi sheik hiding in Afghanistan to kill Americans as revenge for our support for what Israel's doing in Lebanon. And that, Jimmy Dore, is why they told you they hate you because you're free, because they didn't want to tell you it was all of that instead. And then what happened? We all know they went to Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, Libya, Syria, Iraq again, Yemen. And now with all of their continued support for the horrific war against the poor, helpless Palestinians locked in the Gaza strip. And now with supposedly preemptive preventative war against a civilian nuclear program in Iran that was no threat to Israel or the United States of America. And I will show up here because I'm sure y' all probably want to ask me something about all that, but you asked me what from 79 led to all this. And that's the answer right there. That's the story.
Guest Host
That's why I brought you Scott Horton.
Jimmy Dore
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Andrew Cuomo
You Didn't.
Jimmy Dore
Is that how you say it? Al ud. Oh, Lu did. Air base in Qatar or Qatar or Qatar. Qatar.
Andrew Cuomo
So I can take money from Qatar or.
Jimmy Dore
No, I don't. I don't think so. So here. So there. I don't even need to show you. So there's missiles. Okay. I don't want to risk us getting demonetized to show you just a bunch of stupid missiles flying. So. This is from npr Iran state run news agency Tasnim, which tastes great on chicken.
Andrew Cuomo
Tasnim. It's pronounced Tasnim.
Jimmy Dore
Oh, Tasnim. Yeah, I like the Tasnim. Chicken Masala said Monday that Tehran launched missile attacks on US bases in Qatar or Qatar or Qatar and Iraq. Or Iraq. Al Jazeera based in Qatar or Qatar or Qatar reported spotting missiles in the skies over the Gulf emirate, which is home to guess what? A U.S. air base. That's right.
Andrew Cuomo
What? Yeah, I thought that there are enemy that pays money to people to.
Jimmy Dore
Turns out there turns out we have the one of our biggest military bases in Qatar or Qatar.
Andrew Cuomo
Does it take money from Carter?
Jimmy Dore
It's weird. I wonder.
Andrew Cuomo
That Carter thing.
Jimmy Dore
So that's.
Andrew Cuomo
It's like you're not cool with lgbtq.
Jimmy Dore
That's the weird thing, right? A US defense official who was not authorized to speak publicly about sensitive military matters and definitely was not Tulsi Gabbard told reporters in an email, I can confirm that the Al UD air base was attacked by short range and medium range ballistic missiles originated from Iran today. At this time there are no reports of US casualties. We are monitoring this situation closely and we'll provide more information as it becomes available. Why? Why are they not authorized to speak about that publicly? A senior White House official speaking on the condition of anonymity. Another of. Why are this all secret? Why is this all secret? Isn't this weird? Said the White House and Department of Defense were closely monitoring potential threats to Lud air base. Reuters. Or do you say Rooters? And the Associated Press or do you say garbage reported the sound of explosions had been heard in Qatar with no immediate report of tarjays or damage. I'm sorry, Targets. The attack came hours after Qatar closed its airspace and the US Embassy called on American nationals to shelter in place. Oh, Mark Levin. I bet he feels so much safer. All the people say, oh, you can sleep at night now. This is from the Cotter's foreign ministry spokesperson, Majid Al Ansari. Which by the way, I loved him on. What was that?
Andrew Cuomo
Community.
Jimmy Dore
Community.
Andrew Cuomo
That's It.
Jimmy Dore
That's right. Aziz.
Andrew Cuomo
Yeah. He says Aziz Al Anzari.
Jimmy Dore
That's Aziz Al Anzari. Who, by the way, got had the most bogus hashtag. Me too. I've heard since Anakasparians.
Andrew Cuomo
Yeah.
Jimmy Dore
Says we express the state of Connor's strong condemnation of the attack on Al U did air base by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard. Really? And consider it a flagrant violation of the state of Qatar sovereignty and airspace as well as an international law. Those damned Iranians.
Andrew Cuomo
It's a flagrant with Andrew Schultz. That's his show.
Jimmy Dore
Okay, so hold on a second. We have an update coming. It says, we affirm that the state of Qatar reserves the right to respond directly in a manner proportioned to the nature and scale of this blatant aggression. This is like comedy.
Andrew Cuomo
Oh, welcome back, Cotter.
Jimmy Dore
I say, yeah, welcome back, Cotter. Oh, funny. Funny. Fuck. Why didn't I think of that?
Andrew Cuomo
Welcome back.
Jimmy Dore
He said the base had been evacuated to the attack. It's kind of like when you die, you evacuate.
Andrew Cuomo
Welcome back. Welcome back.
Jimmy Dore
Well, we bomb them a lot. Cause we got them on the spot. Welcome back. We bomb them a lot. Cause we just bombed a rock. Welcome back. United Arab Emirates closed their airspace. Sirens are going off in Bahrain. Qatar is intercepting missiles. And US Bases have been bombed in Iraq because Trump chose to do Netanyahu's dirty work. His fans could never say that Trump never started new wars. He's a warmonger. That's from Mokhtar.
Andrew Cuomo
Wow. Well, one thing nobody can accuse Trump of is audience capture. Since he doesn't do shit people wanted him to do.
Jimmy Dore
He's not. Isn't it amazing that there are certain people who are loyal to Trump, not loyal to what he ran on, not loyal to policies, not loyal to an anti war idea, but are loyal to Donald Trump. Have twisted themselves into pretzels to say you have to support Donald Trump and not.
Andrew Cuomo
Yeah, they're called bots. They're called bots. Even if they're people.
Jimmy Dore
Even if they're people. The use of six missiles by your. It's kind of like how. It's kind of like how you thought people like Ben Shapiro and. Who's the guy from Canada?
Kurt Metzger
Peterson.
Jimmy Dore
Yeah. Jordan Peterson. And those types were. And my good friend Dave Rubin were all.
Andrew Cuomo
Yeah. New York comedian. Beloved New York comedian Dave Rubin. I was there 20 years, never seen him in nowhere. I see a tape of him at a Gotham bringer.
Jimmy Dore
Does that count how they all said that they were for free speech and that, you know, you had to Be exposed to ideas that made you uncomfortable. You don't get to have a safe space on college. You know, it's like how all those people immediately flipped. You're like, oh, you're not what you said you were. It's the same thing with the people who supported Trump during the campaign. And now they support the opposite of what he campaigned on. Just because it's him.
Andrew Cuomo
Dave Portnoy doesn't feel safe, Jimmy, now, come on.
Jimmy Dore
It's.
Andrew Cuomo
I like he's yelling at a guy named Kurt on his show. Yeah, Kurt. Every time I see it, I get.
Jimmy Dore
Yeah, I love what he said. Yeah, you. You bald headed f. I know. And then the guy. And then that. And then that guy says, oh, I'll never recover from that. Dave, that was so funny.
Andrew Cuomo
Oh, yeah, it really.
Jimmy Dore
It was funny. Less than an hour ago, I said, this is that congressman who said we should nuke Iran or Gaza? I can't remember. I think Gaza.
Andrew Cuomo
Randy. Fine.
Jimmy Dore
Randy, Fine boy. Got it. Can I tell you, he is the new Chris Christie of politics. I don't know if you've seen him, the guy. Boy, he has. He's never. He's never seen a Krispy Kreme. He didn't like.
Andrew Cuomo
No Ozempic for that guy.
Jimmy Dore
No Ozempic. He's, he's, he's doing it the old fashioned way. He said that less than half hour ago on the floor. I said, when our enemies say they want to kill us, we should believe them. And now, just moments later, Iran is launching missiles at our base in Qatar. Muslim terror is not rhetoric. It is reality.
Andrew Cuomo
That is not terrorism. When they attack a military base, terrorism is when they attack me.
Jimmy Dore
That's right. Terrorism is when they attack civilians for political ends. And this is called a retaliatory strike. This isn't called terrorism or any of that stuff. Glenn Greenwald says The use of six missiles, initials by Iran against the U.S. air base in Qatar shows how terroristic and bloodthirsty Iran is. The US did nothing. Just minding its own business, not bothering Iran. Went out of nowhere. The mullahs launched a vicious terror attack.
Andrew Cuomo
Yeah. Typical bullies of the Middle East. Iran.
Jimmy Dore
Iran. Iran coordinated the attacks on the American air base in Qatar with Qatari officials. So this is all theater.
Andrew Cuomo
Yeah.
Jimmy Dore
So this is all usual, except for.
Andrew Cuomo
The dead people, you know, that we killed. But yeah.
Jimmy Dore
So this is all so it seems so. I'll read the rest of this. They gave advance notice that the attacks were coming to minimize casualties. According to three Iranian officials familiar with the Plans the officials said Iran symbolically needed to strike back at the US but at the same time carry it out in a way that allowed all sides to exit an exit ramp. They described it as a similar strategy to 2020 when Iran gave Iraq a heads up before firing ballistic missiles on American base in Iraq following the assassination of its top general. I think that was the Soleimani. So Ahmed Baba, or do you say Baba? So Iran's attack was telegraphed in advance to Qatar. Most missiles were intercepted. So far, no casualties or major damage. This appears to be a symbolic proportional response, perhaps seeking to de escalate. Unless it's a misdirection. We'll see. We'll see. How Trump responds will be key. So, Steph, could you hold that up? Apparently just breaking news as I'm talking about this. There has been a complete and total ceasefire between Israel and Iran to start in the coming hours. Said that's from the Trump White House.
Kurt Metzger
And I went ahead and sent the Guardian article to you and Malcolm, just so you know.
Jimmy Dore
Oh, really?
Kurt Metzger
I just sent it right now.
Jimmy Dore
Okay.
Kurt Metzger
Just in case you want just to show it and go through it.
Jimmy Dore
Okay.
Andrew Cuomo
Well, if they have a ceasefire, Bibi goes to jail. I don't think they can have that for long.
Jimmy Dore
So that's the thing. If there isn't a war, Bibi will go to jail. Just so you know. Craig Murray, our friend over from the UK, says if you see the videos, Iran tossed a few older, low level, slow missiles at the US base and Qatar, bound to be intercepted. Having traveled they were coming, having signaled that they were coming. It's a token retaliation designed not to escalate. Here's what this is. This is all kind of funny. Every sentence that I'm reading is kind of funny. It's already, it's already kind of funny.
Andrew Cuomo
Because it's like Soviet Union time. So you got to read between the lines of every goddamn thing they say. I feel like Yakov Smirnoff now.
Jimmy Dore
In America, you watch tv. In Russia, TV watches you, newspaper read you. Iran has officially responded to. This is Trump speaking. Has officially responded to our obliteration of their nuclear facilities.
Andrew Cuomo
Great, great job.
Jimmy Dore
With a very weak response which we expected and have very effectively countered. There have been 14 missiles fired, 13 were knocked out and one was set free because it was headed in a non threatening direction. I am pleased to report that no Americans were harmed and hardly any damage was done. Most importantly, they've gotten it all out of their system.
Andrew Cuomo
Oh my God.
Jimmy Dore
And there will hopefully be no further hate wow. So when we bomb them, it's self defense. When we preemptively, unilaterally initiate an attack, a war was what Trump did on Iran, that's just good old self defense. But when they respond, that's hate. So Trump's really getting on this hate speech. Shit. He's really. He is not. He's. He's really grabbing onto that woke lingo.
Andrew Cuomo
Well, maybe it's Jimmy. He just has a secret, good plan that they're doing. Fuck them anyway. If they're all doing a secret plan, why is it always I got to discern this out of their shit?
Jimmy Dore
Why? So I want. He says, Trump says, I want to thank Iran for giving us early notice, which made it possible for no lives to be lost and nobody to be injured. Perhaps Iran can now proceed to peace and harmony in the region, and I will enthusiastically encourage Israel to do the same. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Andrew Cuomo
He's called it a weak response. And he's thanking them for.
Jimmy Dore
He's thanking him. Thank you. Thank you for the weak response. Thank you. That's very nice of you.
Andrew Cuomo
I really respect what puzzies you are.
Jimmy Dore
Yeah, that's what. That's what he's saying. I'd like to thank the highly respected Amir of Qatar for all that he has done in seeking peace for the region. Regarding the attack today at the American base in Qatar, I am pleased to report that in addition to no Americans being killed or wounded, very importantly, there have also been no Qataris killed or wounded. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Andrew Cuomo
So we can take money from Qatar. That's okay. It sounds like they're good friends.
Jimmy Dore
I like how he speaks, like it's a. It's a memo. It's an inner office memo. Thank you for your attention. That's how he likes to. Jason. Jason. Hickel says the best way Cotter can respond to Iran's retaliatory strikes on the US Base is to close it down and expel all US Military personnel stationed there. Yeah, not happening, Jason.
Andrew Cuomo
But that's the best way.
Jimmy Dore
But thanks for sure. Thanks for the. Thanks for the. I appreciate it. I agree with Jason. Not happening.
Andrew Cuomo
How would that be the best way? What if Iran strikes? Barstool Sports next.
Jimmy Dore
What. What happens?
Andrew Cuomo
How will we respond?
Kurt Metzger
All right, Jimmy, I really do want you to answer this question. Okay. This is from a new viewer, and I think this might help some people out there. I'm confused why it's totally okay for Hamas to do what they did on October 7, but Israel isn't allowed to defend itself and try to once and for all rid itself of.
Jimmy Dore
That's not a real question because Bibi.
Andrew Cuomo
Paid for it and he demands his service.
Kurt Metzger
I would like you to respond to that.
Jimmy Dore
Well, Kurt just kind of.
Kurt Metzger
Go ahead and show.
Jimmy Dore
Kurt just responded. He said, well, because Benjamin Netanyahu basically engineered the October 7th attack. He paid for it, he funded it. He made sure the PLL wasn't a viable. They're a secular organization. And so it was Bibi who propped up Hamas and made sure that happened and made sure they didn't have a response for hours and hours. So they could use that as a pretext to go in and flatten Gaza and steal more of their land, even. And the reason why Hamas is allowed to attack on October 7 under international law is because they're being occupied. And according to international law, you're allowed to use force to fight against the people who are occupying you. That would be. That would be the reason. And then. So this was all Benjamin Netanyahu was doing. It's like he's creating a false flag so he can then use that false flag. It's like how they use 911 to go into Iraq, even though it had nothing to do with it. How they use 911 to go into Libya, how they use it to go into Yemen, Syria. Ramp up the drain, all that stuff. So it's.
Andrew Cuomo
By the way, when we did our little false flag 911 thing, let's say he was right and it was all Hamas and not the Hannibal Directive that killed most of the people.
Jimmy Dore
Right.
Andrew Cuomo
Let's say it's that story. You're still not allowed to starve their kids to death. There's a law about going to war against bad terrorists.
Jimmy Dore
Yeah.
Andrew Cuomo
Why didn't we do that in Afghanistan? Starve all of them to death until they hand over the Taliban. We're going to starve your. We'll never forgive you for forcing us to kill your kids. Yeah, that's a quote from Gold on My Ear.
Jimmy Dore
That's right.
Andrew Cuomo
You don't see a problem with that? Who is this Michael Rappaport?
Jimmy Dore
So that would be. Yeah, right. Is Michael Rappaport in the chat? It sounds like it. Or Jerry Seinfeld. Could be Jerry Seinfeld also. Kurt, you don't know.
Andrew Cuomo
I think it's the guy from Portnoy is probably Dave Portnoy.
Jimmy Dore
Or maybe it's Dave Portnoy.
Andrew Cuomo
I think it's Dave Portnoy myself, because he's as the most. I mean, that guy is terrified But.
Kurt Metzger
I actually think that question is what our neighbors would ask and friends of ours would ask that. That would be how they would pose it.
Jimmy Dore
People who don't know anything about anything.
Kurt Metzger
That's the kind of MSNBC that watch.
Jimmy Dore
MSNBC and CNN or Fox. And that would be the question that they would have or mainstream media.
Andrew Cuomo
My, My question in response is, why are you illiterate? Why do you don't know about anything going on at all, but you have the balls to say that stupid shit you just said? What do you think about sports all day? You all right? I'm gonna go.
Jimmy Dore
I appreciate. Yeah, no, I appreciate that question for giving me an opportunity to knock it down. Because that is a question that a lot of people would ask, because most people don't know anything. Just like that's why people were on board for going to war with Iraq. That's why people were on board for 20 years of Afghanistan. That's why people were on board for Ukraine, because they don't know anything about the Ukraine war. They just know what's being told to them by the. The establishment media, which, as Noam Chomsky taught us, is there to manufacture consent for those wars. They're not there to actually tell you the truth about the wars, because if they told you the truth about the wars, then you wouldn't be on board for the war.
Andrew Cuomo
We're not on board now. And they're lying. By the way, a Jimmy Doreviewer who's paying for a super chat doesn't know anything about it. I find that a little difficult.
Jimmy Dore
That's me too.
Andrew Cuomo
Why is he watching Jimmy Dore show if he didn't know nothing about that?
Kurt Metzger
Well, my response would be maybe it's.
Jimmy Dore
A new viewer, maybe it's a new viewer.
Kurt Metzger
We have to know that sometimes. We might very well be getting some new viewers, folks.
Jimmy Dore
We had 20, 27,000 new subscribers just last month alone, Kurt. So maybe it's a new person.
Andrew Cuomo
That's why your audience captured. Now I see.
Jimmy Dore
Oh, very, very. You could see our audience.
Kurt Metzger
Okay, so now I have one more question for you, and this is. I was. I read Anya Perampil's recent tweet about the ceasefire, and she's suggesting that she hasn't read anything from Iran. Iran has said they have not received anything about a ceasefire. So I would like to know what your observation of this game would be.
Andrew Cuomo
No. Trump gave the message to his Israel people to pass it along. I'm sure they got it.
Jimmy Dore
We'll see. It's. It's First. I mean, it's not smart of Trump to call them pussies and then thank them for. Not for. For giving us a heads up on your. It's just like the whole point of allowing them to attack. The whole point of allowing Iran to attack one of our military bases in Qatar and is so that they could save face. And then Trump immediately doesn't allow them to save face by calling them. We basically. Basically calling them pussies.
Andrew Cuomo
Yeah. And by the way, what a worthless setup of government we have all over the world. That. That's the situation you would have to work out where you fake attack each other, call each other ahead of time and wonder what a piece of shit Western civilization is.
Jimmy Dore
Isn't it so. Well, that's actually Middle east civilization, but okay, so it's all the same. So let's just remember what Donald Trump said. This is what got him elected the first time. This is when everything changed and when people started to refer to Donald Trump as a peace candidate. And here we go.
Donald Trump
They lied. They said there were weapons of mass destruction. There were none. And they knew there were none. There were no weapons of mass. Okay, obviously the war in Iraq was a big fat mistake. All right? Now you can take it any way you want. And it took. It took Jeb Bush, if you remember, at the beginning of his announcement, when he announced for president. Took him five days. He went back. It was a mistake. It wasn't a mistake. Took him five days before his people told him what to say. And he ultimately said it was a mistake. The war in Iraq. We spent $2 trillion, thousands of lives. We don't even have it. Iran is taking over Iraq with the second largest oil reserves in the world. Obviously, it was a mistake. So George Bush made a mistake. We can make mistakes, but that one was a beauty. We should have never been in Iraq. We have destabilized the Middle East.
Jimmy Dore
But so, so, I mean. So you still think he should be in pain.
Scott Horton
It's my turn.
Donald Trump
And you do whatever you want. You call it whatever you want. I want to tell you they lied. They said there were weapons of mass destruction. There were none. And they knew there were none. There were no weapons of mass.
Jimmy Dore
Okay, and now Trump is lying to you that Iran has a nuclear bomb or a nuclear probe or are weeks away from getting a nuclear bomb. The. I told that Tulsi Gabbard gave testimony just a few weeks ago or a month ago in Congress saying, no. The. The assessment of our intelligence community is that they're not seeking a bomb. They don't have a bomb. They don't. And so again, there was, there's no international inspections. All this stuff that Iran had agreed to under the Obama nuclear deal. And even so anyway, here we are. So that's. So that's what Trump used to say. That's what Trump used to say.
Andrew Cuomo
You know an earthquake hit Iran, by the way, right?
Jimmy Dore
No, they had the earthquake machine unleashed on Iran. Did they?
Andrew Cuomo
Maybe it was. Our bunker busters are really strong. Oh, they coincidentally had an earthquake on the day of the attack. You know my buddy Eric that was talking about that thing they got.
Jimmy Dore
Yeah. The guy from.
Andrew Cuomo
So that's the confidence about nukes. They don't, don't matter if they have nukes.
Jimmy Dore
So again, this is just like, just like Benjamin Netanyahu and George Bush and Dick Cheney pretended that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. And that's why we were going in. That had nothing to do with it. As Jeffrey Sachs already proved that that had nothing to do with it. They were trying to find a reason that the American people could get behind for us going to war with Iraq. We weren't attacked by Iraq. Iraq wasn't attacking us. In fact, Iraq was our client state for years. Iraq is, was. And then. But we did that at the behest of Israel. That's what that. Just like we're doing Iran at the behest of Israel. Just like Syria, just like Libya. This is just like Yemen. This is the Greater Israel Project. Here it is.
Andrew Cuomo
They're trying to say it was a nuclear inducted quake, probably from their nuclear weapons or something. It is unbelievable. Dude. Well, get ready for that earthquake thing. Remember when Iran said that we used weather stuff on them to cause a drought?
Jimmy Dore
Yes.
Andrew Cuomo
Yeah. Do you think we didn't, do you think we didn't do that? They're just making it up.
Jimmy Dore
So here, I just want to play this for you real quick. Just to remind you this is. So what is actually happening is this, this is a plan put in place long before. And then they just find reasons that people will get behind in the United States to make it okay. So we don't have a revolution here. Remember what, here's, here's WESLEY Clark.
Wesley Clark
About 10 days after 9 11, I went through the Pentagon and I saw Secretary Rumsfeld and Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz. I went downstairs just to say hello to some of the people on the Joint staff who used to work for me. And one of the generals called me and he said, sir, you gotta come in, you gotta come in and talk to me a Second I said, well, you're too busy. He said, no, no. He says, we've made the decision. We're going to war with Iraq. This was on or about the 20th of September. I said, we're going to war with Iraq.
Scott Horton
Why?
Wesley Clark
He said, I don't know. He said, I guess they don't know what else to do. So I said, well, did they find some information connecting Saddam to Al Qaeda? He said, no, no. He says, there's nothing new that way. They just made the decision to go to war with Iraq. He said, I guess it's like we don't know what to do about terrorists, but we got a good military and we can take down governments. And he said, I guess if the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem has to look like a nail. So I came back to see him a few weeks later and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan. I said, are we still going to war with Iraq? And he said, oh, it's worse than that. He said, he reached over on his desk, he picked up a piece of paper. He said, I just, he said, I just got this down from upstairs meeting the Secretary of Defense's office today. And he said, this is a memo that describes how we're going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and finishing off Iran.
Jimmy Dore
And here we are. So that's what's really happening. Just so you know, this was a plan they had in place all along and they were just waiting for the right time. And now that they, now that they got, they got rid of Assad in Syria, that figured into the timing of this and immediately Israel went after Iran. And here we are, an unconditional surrender to Iran, to Israel. That's what we're doing.
Andrew Cuomo
Well, really to England at the end of the day, because that's who their puppet is. But when I went to go see Top Gun Maverick in the theater, because we were going to be making a joke about it, I would never go watch Top Gun. I always thought it was absolutely stupid. But I went and saw it about 10 days after the lack, if you recall when that came out because it got an Oscar nomination, Maverick and they took all the great homo volleyball parts out. So I didn't understand that right there was so nothing woke in it. This is at the height of everybody's complaining about the movies are woke and Top Gun Maverick had nothing woke in it. And it was so suspicious to not see anything woke in it that I was like this. It gave me the Grossest feeling watching that movie because I didn't know who they were talking about. They go, oh, we have an enemy and indeterminate Middle Eastern ally. We need to blow up some nukes. And the mountain, all my friends thought it was Russia. No, that's Iran.
Jimmy Dore
The mountains, yes.
Andrew Cuomo
It's in this tough place to go in the mountains.
Jimmy Dore
And so I just want to remind you of this. We covered this before and I'll play it for you again. Watch this. This is a compilation of Benjamin Netanyahu warmongering.
J
If you take away the Soviet Union and its chief proxy, the plo, international terrorism would collapse. If you take out Saddam, Saddam's regime, I guarantee you that it will have enormous positive reverberations on the regime. Obviously, we'd like to see a regime change, at least I would in Iran, just as I would like to see in Iraq. The question now is a practical question. It's not a question of whether Iraq's regime should be taken out, but when should it be taken out. It's not a question of whether you'd like to see a regime change in.
Scott Horton
Iran, but how do there any other.
Jimmy Dore
Nations that you would recommend that the.
Scott Horton
United States launch preemptive attacks upon?
J
At this point, the answer is categorically yes, is Iraq and Iran. But a third nation, by the way, is Libya as well. Libya is trying very rapidly to build, build an atomic bomb capability. So you have here now three all stand together to stop Iran's march of conquest, subjugation and terror. Know that no matter on which side of the aisle you sit, you stand with Israel.
Jimmy Dore
By the way, that's a command. That's an order he was giving to Congress. That wasn't him making an assessment. He was telling them, you stand with Israel. And then that's what they did. They all stood.
Andrew Cuomo
Wow. So shouldn't have went to Epstein Island. All those people, huh?
Jimmy Dore
And just, just remind, just reminding you of what Tulsi Gabbard said in January 3, 2020. She said, we do not seek regime change. Trump declares as he escalates his regime change war in Iran. Neocons like Graham Bolton are cheering to all who voted for Trump because of his anti war rhetoric. It's time to realize he lied to you. Stand with me against Trump's Iran war. She was saying that in 2020. January 3, 2020. She was saying that. Stand with me against Trump's Iran war. It's time to realize Trump lied to you. Wait, that's what she said in January 2020, before Biden went in. Yeah.
Andrew Cuomo
She's part of the whole thing. She's part of the whole thing.
Jimmy Dore
So we're going to get to that. But I just got.
Andrew Cuomo
It's such an easy trick they do on everybody.
Jimmy Dore
Hey. Become a premium member. Go to jimmy door comedy.com sign up. It's the most affordable premium program in the business. All the voices performed today are by the one and only, the inimitable Mike McRae. He can be found at mikemcrae.com that's it for this. This week, you be the best you can be. And I'll keep being me. Out. Don't freak out. Don't freak out. Don't freak out. Do not freak out. Do not do that. Don't freak out. Do not freak out.
Podcast Summary: The Jimmy Dore Show
Episode: What They WON’T Tell You About U.S.’s Ugly History In Iran! w/ Scott Horton
Release Date: June 25, 2025
Introduction
In this compelling episode of The Jimmy Dore Show, host Jimmy Dore delves deep into the complex and often obscured history of U.S. involvement in Iran. Accompanied by insightful guest Scott Horton, a renowned anti-war voice and director of the Libertarian Institute, the discussion unpacks decades of geopolitical maneuvering, covert operations, and unintended consequences that have shaped the current state of U.S.-Iran relations.
1. Unexpected Caller: A Provocative Exchange with Andrew Cuomo [00:16 - 06:04]
The episode kicks off with an unconventional segment featuring a heated phone conversation between Jimmy Dore’s production team and a caller impersonating former New York Governor Andrew Cuomo. This satirical exchange serves as a humorous yet pointed critique of political strategies and media narratives surrounding U.S. politics and international relations.
This segment underscores the show's commitment to challenging political figures and media portrayals with sharp wit and unfiltered commentary.
2. Introducing Scott Horton: Unveiling Historical Truths [06:04 - 07:22]
Transitioning from satire to serious discourse, Jimmy welcomes Scott Horton to the show. Horton, known for his extensive work on anti-war initiatives and foreign policy analysis, sets the stage for an in-depth exploration of U.S. actions in Iran and their long-lasting ramifications.
3. Historical Context: The 1953 Coup and Its Aftermath [07:22 - 08:51]
Scott Horton begins by tracing the origins of modern U.S.-Iran tensions to the 1953 CIA-led coup that overthrew Iran's democratically elected Prime Minister, Mohammad Mossadegh. This pivotal event set the foundation for decades of strained relations and geopolitical strife.
Key Point:
Horton emphasizes how "Operation Ajax" marked the beginning of persistent U.S. interference in Iranian politics, leading to long-term instability and anti-American sentiments.
Notable Quote:
Scott Horton: "This is when the phrase blowback was coined... it was 26 years later."
(08:51)
4. The Iranian Revolution and U.S. Miscalculations [08:51 - 29:43]
Delving deeper, Horton outlines the sequence of events leading up to the 1979 Iranian Revolution. He critiques the Carter administration's handling of the Shah's return for medical treatment, which inadvertently fueled public outrage and catalyzed the revolution.
Key Points:
Notable Quote:
Scott Horton: "The original revolution was at the end of '78 and beginning of '79... the hostage crisis didn't break out until November."
(08:10 - 02:28)
5. The Iran-Iraq War and U.S. Involvement [29:43 - 54:44]
Horton meticulously discusses the Iran-Iraq War, emphasizing how U.S. policies inadvertently prolonged the conflict. He explains the strategic interests that led to American support for Saddam Hussein, despite his regime's oppression, as a means to counter Iranian influence.
Key Points:
Notable Quote:
Scott Horton: "America encouraged Soviet expansion into Afghanistan... we have a war guarantee to keep the USSR out."
(28:51 - 29:43)
6. Missile Attacks and Modern-Day Tensions [54:44 - 59:35]
Shifting to contemporary issues, the discussion addresses recent missile attacks on U.S. bases in Qatar by Iran, analyzing them within the historical context provided. Horton critiques the U.S. response and the ongoing cycle of violence fueled by decades-old policies.
Key Points:
Notable Quote:
Scott Horton: "Their motive was American occupation of Saudi and bombing Iraqis... and now we're facing retaliatory strikes."
(54:44 - 59:35)
Conclusion
Throughout the episode, Jimmy Dore and Scott Horton present a meticulously researched narrative that challenges mainstream perceptions of U.S.-Iran relations. By unveiling the layers of historical interventions and their unintended consequences, the show advocates for a more informed and conscientious approach to foreign policy. The conversation underscores the necessity of understanding historical contexts to navigate and resolve contemporary geopolitical conflicts effectively.
Final Thoughts
This episode of The Jimmy Dore Show serves as a profound reminder of the complexities underlying international relations. Through incisive dialogue and critical examination of past and present policies, Jimmy Dore and Scott Horton encourage listeners to question established narratives and seek deeper truths in the pursuit of global peace and stability.