
During an interview with Tucker Carlson, Wikipedia co-founder Larry Sanger pointed out that intelligence agencies like the CIA manipulate Wikipedia content for propaganda purposes. Jimmy discusses how anti-establishment or anti-war figures are unable...
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Morning, Zoe. Got donuts. Jeff Bridges, why are you still living above our garage? Well, I dig the mattress and I want to be in a T mobile commercial like you teach me. So, Dana.
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Come see me on tour in Irvine, California, Australia and Burbank, California. Go to jimmy door.com for a link for tickets. This is Jimmy. Who's this?
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Hey, what's up, man? It's J.D. vance.
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Oh, Mr. Vice President, it's a pleasure to hear from you.
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Thank you, good sir. The honor is all mine and I'm not going to share it, so don't even ask for any honor.
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Duly noted. What's going on?
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Well, not much, man. The government shut down. There's nothing going on.
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Is that so?
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Yeah, dude, nobody's here. It's weird. Like the halls are all empty. It's just me and like four other people. We're running around the place like in the Breakfast Club. We already did that Egyptian line dancing thing. I remember to hide a yo yo in the back of my desk. Trying to teach myself some tricks I found on YouTube.
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I'm not sure that during a government shutdown you're not allowed to do anything productive. You could maybe working to end the shutdown.
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No, we're good. This is. We like this better. It's a chill vibe. The government's in detention this week.
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Okay, fine.
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Besides, whenever we do do stuff, it just makes the news. Might want to give the news a break too. You know, doing nothing has a trickle down effect. Or the news could keep focusing on Pete Hegseth's speech yesterday.
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What did you think of the Secretary of Defense's speech?
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I think you mean secretary of War. Between you and me, I think Pete's an unhinged lunatic. But that's exactly who we need in that position. And I thought his speech was great.
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Really?
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Oh, for sure, dude. The military needs to be seriously dewoked. And a retired National Guard guy with vaguely white nationalist tattoos is just the man for the job.
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How so?
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Basically, he went in there and told the generals of our armed forces to get their shit together, signaling that he has zero respect for them. And he referred to our soldiers in this new term war fighters, which makes them sound like a 6 year old playing with GI Joes. So this is all very good and should inspire confidence.
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You think this is good?
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Yes, I do. Because if you don't think stuff like this is good, then you have to acknowledge that it's really, really bad. Almost scary bad. So you just say it's good instead. Simple as pie.
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I got it. I see.
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And then he attacked all of all generals of the US Military for their appearance. That was also very good. Basically said no fatties. Just like my Tinder. Prof. I would if I were single. Everyone needs to lose weight and get all jacked like a right wing podcaster. And right before Trump came out to speak to the Commander in Chief of the military.
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Are we pretending that the President isn't a great big fat guy?
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Jimmy, we should all be so lucky to be in the shape the President is in at his age. At any age.
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I gotcha.
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And then he went after beards. He said, no beards. Shave those beards. He said, we are not Nordic pagans. We're the U.S. christian military. And that's so true, man. We don't want Nordic pagans in our army.
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Nordic Pagans? You mean Vikings, right? We wouldn't want literal Vikings in our fighting forces.
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I think. I really think those are different things.
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They're literally the same thing.
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Agree to disagree. Then he went after trans, which is a big thing in our administration. We're really gunning for those fuckers.
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Yeah.
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And referring to all these military officers who are trans women, he says the dudes and dresses shit is over. Which was great because that's super offensive to them. We don't want them in our army. It looks dumb and gay. We're supposed to be scary, not. Look how tolerant we are of this shit.
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Right, Got it.
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I mean, look at all these trans shooters now. Every mass shooter and assassin is basically trans. Now look at Charlie Kirk's murder.
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Yeah, Charlie's Kirk, murder was a killer, wasn't trans?
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Well, trans was involved. There was trans in there. And we can have. We can't have murders like that in the U.S. military.
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You can't have killers in the Army.
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No.
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Pete Hegseth reminded the generals in that same speech that the military is there to kill and break things. If trans people are so good at killing, wouldn't you want them in the Army?
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Hmm?
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Wouldn't our enemies tremble at the sight of these trans officers?
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No, because, well, maybe in their country they don't have trans yet. Like it hasn't caught on there. So the enemy doesn't know that they're all super dangerous and murderers, like their society hasn't gotten to the point of trans acceptance where all the trans people start becoming killers and this is all too much. Look, this is my job. Coming up with weird ass excuses for crazy shit that people in this administration say and do because I'm the one basically saying person in this whole crew. I need to rationalize insanity day in and day out.
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I notice you haven't been touched on the President's remarks. You haven't touched on the President's remarks in front of the generals.
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And I'm not fucking gonna. That will take a lot of work on my part to spend positively. And I don't know if you've heard, but the government has shut down. As in shut it all the way down. Which means I ain't working. Me and Bojo, my chief of staff, are going to spend the rest of this afternoon playing football. The folded up paper version where you use your fingers as goal posts.
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Well, I guess you deserve a day off.
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Thank you, I appreciate that. And I will talk to you again after we fix the shutdown and we can get back to the business of saying absolutely crazy shit on camera and whatever else it is that we do. Until then, God bless you and God bless the United States of America. Bojo, your fingers are bending. That's cheating.
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Establishment media sucks.
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August light and so good luck. Bullshit. We can't afford why fomenting this watch.
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And see as his jack got the.
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Medium speed and jumps the medium and hits them head on. It's the chimmy door show. You told me that this completely free data service is propaganda. Really? Just because they spent millions, maybe billions on implementing it, doesn't mean they have a hidden agenda. I mean, billionaires always do beneficial things for us, like Bill Gates does. Recently, the founder of Wikipedia, Larry Sanger, was on Tucker Carlson and he revealed that the CIA and intelligence communities are actually editing Wikipedia And I'll show you that right now. So here it says Wikipedia co founder criticizes site meaning Wikipedia says it has slid into leftist propaganda. So let's, let's hear what he had to say.
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Yes. It wasn't until like I think it was 2006, 2007, Virgil Griffiths did Master's research. He came up with a tool called Wiki Scanner that enabled people to look up the IP addresses of people who had done edits and like, who had edited which articles. And so they were able to find a whole bunch of edits coming from Langley.
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I didn't even know that.
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No, it's true.
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Not, not to brag.
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I could just tell by reading it. I know what that is.
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Right.
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So I since have learned differently and learned much better. I don't have the background that you have, but it's, it's also very clear to me what we are told about the way that intelligence works now is that of course there's the old fashioned cloak and dagger spying going on, but a large part of their remit of intelligence today is to manipulate public opinion in various ways. And Wikipedia is like just a gold mine for the intelligence agencies of the world because it's like a one stop shop. You know, you can just like type in the things that you want people to believe.
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So there is the founder of Wikipedia saying that it's an intelligence dream come true. And if you know anything about Wikipedia, I can't even edit my own page. So when someone goes in and says something wrong and defamatory about me, I can't edit it. I can't go in. They won't even let me get, put a counter argument in. It gets, as soon as I put it in, they strike it, they take it off. So, so they do that with anybody who's anti war, anybody who's anti establishment. They do that to them. And they found out, by the way. So it's, it's Langley. So that means intelligence. Right. So let's, let's, here's another, here's another clip from that same show. Can I go on the Wikipedia site and find out what's blacklisted?
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Sure. Just, just type in perennial sources.
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So they blacklist, like for instance, the Gray zone. You can't use them on Wikipedia as a source. So they've broken lots of stories, debunked lots of establishment narratives and they do great journalism at the Gray zone. And what, so you can't, but you still can't use them on Wikipedia as a source. And so that's what they're talking about that they only have certain sources that they'll allow you to cite on Wikipedia. And he's got a tool to fit to let you figure out how to do that. Let's listen. Can I go on the Wikipedia site and find out what's blacklisted?
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Sure. Just. Just type in perennial sources Wikipedia into any search engine and the first result will be this page and it names them the blacklist. Oh, yeah, of course. Yeah. It's all so color coded. Green.
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Do you have the list? Do you mind if I do that really quick?
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Go right ahead.
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Okay, so it's. Let me just do. I'm testing your thesis. So it's perennial source.
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Yeah. List Wikipedia.
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Right.
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While you're doing that, I'll give you some fully approved sources. New York Times, Washington Post, cnn, the Nation. Mother Jones.
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Glad. Come on.
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These are all green lit. Fully green lit.
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So all of those organizations you can use, those are approved sources for Wikipedia. Did you hear those places? New York Times, cnn, glaad.
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Okay, the blacklisted sources are Breitbart, Daily Caller, Epoch Times, Fox News, New York Post, the Federalist.
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Wow.
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So you can't use those as sources on Wikipedia.
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Wait. Oh, wow. Well, they've got.
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Of course.
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So is red. I'm looking at it now.
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Yes. Red means it's blacklisted. You cannot cite it as a source of facts. Maybe as a source of opinion, but generally that works out.
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Anti Defamation League gets a green light.
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Only for some. Yes. If you're actually reporting about the. About the Arab Israeli conflict. Yes, yes.
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Okay.
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You may not cite them.
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Interesting. Wait, so you're telling me this completely. You're telling me that this completely free data service is propaganda? Really? Just because they spent millions, maybe billions on implementing it doesn't mean they have a hidden agenda. I mean, billionaires always do beneficial things for us, like Bill Gates does. Here we go.
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So you can't. You can't find the Jewish perspective on the war so easily anymore on Wikipedia.
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Wait, so. So Wikipedia is woke, but it doesn't allow the adl. Wow, I'm confused. Since when the CIA not submit to the Mossad? I don't. I don't remember this. Here we go. Catholic hierarchy, celebrity. This is interesting.
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Yes. There's a. A serious academic encyclopedia of Christianity that is not allowed on Wikipedia. I was surprised to find counter punch is not allowed. They're naughty.
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They're naughty. Daily Call are not allowed, of course.
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Oh, you started Daily Mail.
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Not. Yeah, I did start it. I got nothing to do with it now. But I did start it. That's interesting. Well, this is kind of incredible. Okay. I never hear about this and we don't know who made this decision.
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Mr. X is the name of his account. Now he. It's edited, of course, as Wikipedia pages are, by a whole bunch of other people.
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Life site news not allowed.
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Right, of course.
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The pro lifers.
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Yeah.
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That's interesting. I'm gonna see if this. Okay, well, why does no one talk about this? Oh, Sputnik, of course. Not allowed.
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Talking. Search me. I don't know why people aren't talking about it. It's obviously huge news. I think it's. It's simply embarrassing for the left. And so the left aren't going to report about it. And the right has been reporting about it.
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TV guide allowed. The UNs reviewed not allowed. TV guide totally cool. UNs VDARE not allowed. This is so funny. This is amazing. Okay.
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All right.
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You've amused me deeply. Okay.
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I'm so sorry. I just had. I'm sorry for the.
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It's just.
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It's all so incredible to me.
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Okay.
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Yes. And Tucker and I do shop at the same store. So. So what is. So what now? Elon Musk is going to. He's got a solution to this. We are building Rockapedia at XAI will be a massive improvement on Wikipedia. Frankly, it is a necessity. Necessity. Necessary step towards the AI goal of understanding the universe. So David Sacks, he's one of the PayPal mafia guys. He says Wikipedia is hopelessly biased. An army of left wing activists maintain it's mostly an army of intelligence ad assets. That's what this is. This is CIA. This is MI6, this is FBI. That's. That's who's running Wikipedia. It's not the left. Okay. Unless you call those, you know, the establishment left. An army of left wing activists maintain the bios and fight reasonable corrections. That's true, they do. Magnifying the problem. Wikipedia often appears first in Google search results and now it's a trusted source for AI model training. This is a huge problem. And so Elon Musk is going to fix that problem and he's going to create Grokopedia. So. And believe me, Grokopedia is going to be different from Wikipedia because they're owned by a different office in the same National Security Agency building. So Musk says xai building a Grokopedia after criticizing Wikipedia. But will the CIA still get to control it? Elon, that's my question and I think the answer is yes. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO said his version of the online encyclopedia, apparently named after his AI chatbot Grok, would be an open source knowledge repository available to the public with no limits on use. Musk criticized Wikipedia on Tuesday as Wokipedia. Following similar accusations from his allies, White House AI and crypto czar David Sachs slammed the site as hopelessly biased. Wow. Okay, well, think about it. How can you monitor what everyone is thinking if you discourage them from saying what they are thinking? Censorship defeats the purpose of keeping a finger on the pulse of the culture. No wonder they're so out of touch. And venture capitalist Chamath Palihapitia, who hosts the all in podcast with Sachs, we've all seen that podcast also suggested Wikipedia was engaged in one sided censorship. The latest uproar stems from conservative pundit Tucker Carlson's recent interview with Wikipedia co founder Larry Sanger, who has been a critic of the project since leaving it in 2002. Wow. Okay, there. And here it is. Wikipedia co founder criticizes site, says it has slid into leftist propaganda. But what about right wing CIA propaganda? What about that? Because that's what I'm really worried about. Okay, can I go on? So this isn't the first time that Musk has taken aim at Wikipedia. The billionaire who has previously clashed with the site's other co founder, Jimmy Wales, offered to buy the site for a billion dollars in October 2023 and on the condition that it changed its name to Dickpedia. Come on, come on, come on. Just when we were beginning to believe the world is not being controlled by drunk on power frat boys. Was trickipedia taken? That's my question. How about Wikipedia? No. How about Wackypedia? Nothing but conspiracy theories. I think it's time as well. Past due. The Wikimedia foundation, the prophet that operates Wikipedia, the nonprofit that operates Wikipedia, said in a statement that its values reflect our unwavering commitment to reliable knowledge, neutrality and constant improvement. Wikipedia informs, it does not persuade. It added some recent commentary overlooks the constant high quality volunteer oversight and strong safeguards already in place on Wikipedia. These protections allow volunteer editors to exercise their right to free expression while upholding knowledge integrity. Well, I just want to show you all the safeguards they have in place. This guy has made over a mil. I think a million One man is behind one third of all the English language articles on Wikipedia. That guy. This guy. And you know, I would say just based on this picture of that guy, I want his hard drive searched immediately, if you know what I'm talking about. So his name is Stephen Pruitt. He's made over 6 million edits on Wikipedia and written over 35,000 articles. Yet I can't edit my own. Jimmy Dore Wikipedia page. He works as a contractor for the US Federal government. No kidding. Well, imagine my shock. The Israeli regime's propaganda complex has dedicated courses and entire teams focused on editing Wikipedia so that it reflects their genocidal worldview. This then becomes a credible source used by Zionist propagandists to further disseminate their propaganda lies. That's how this works. Wikipedia editing courses launched by Zionist groups. What? They have Wikipedia. So Zionists, they have. It says since the earliest days of the World Wide Web, the conflict between Israelis and Palestinians has seen its rhetorical counterpart fought on the talk boards and chat rooms of the Internet. Now two Israeli groups seeking to gain the upper hand in the online debate have launched a course in Zionist editing for Wikipedia. The online reference suit. This is from 2010. This article. The Yeshua Council, representing the Jewish settler movement and the right wing Israeli Shelley, which means My Israel movement, ran their first workshop this week in Jerusalem, teaching participants how to rewrite and reverse some of the most hotly disputed pages on the online reference site. Fake Wikipedia accounts Conservative Israel Israeli Think Tank is behind skewed judicial overhaul articles What? Yeah. Colette policy farm worker secretly operated five fake accounts on Wikipedia skewing debates and articles about Israeli's judicial overhaul and other contentious issues. Colette says the researcher acted on his own. There it was. It was revealed over the weekend that Koelet researcher operated at least five fake accounts on the Hebrew Wikipedia to covertly influence the open encyclopedia. The incident is considered a severe breach of the rules set by the Wikipedia community and is already leading to calls to ban the conservative group from what some are labeling a dangerous attempt to skew Israeli public opinion in the group's favor. Here is another one. So they have been doing this for many years. Here's a video from an Israeli propaganda network from 13 years ago where they proudly talk about how they're intentionally distorting Wikipedia with their Zionist propaganda. It features future prime minister and genocidal maniac Naftali Bennett. Let's listen. In conjunction with my Israel has arranged instruction day for wiki editors. The goal of the day is to teach people how to edit in Wikipedia, which is the number one source of information today in the world. As a way of example, if someone searches the Gaza flotilla, we want to be there. We want to be the guys who influence what is written there, how it's written, and to ensure that it's balanced and Zionist in nature.
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I came here to learn more about how we as Israelis and as Jews can defend Israel online on the Internet, particularly in Wikipedia.
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In this case, Wikipedia is a bit.
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Of a complex system and it's sometimes.
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Hard to figure out the rules.
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I've personally tried to edit things in Wikipedia that were against Israel, small things.
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And my changes were erased or undone.
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And I didn't understand why.
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So this is what total mind control looks like, folks, because saying something so they're just admitting that they're trying to do propaganda on Wikipedia and they're having classes and teaching people how to do this. And so they. And he just says it into a camera. It's like it's completely normal and they expect no rebuke for it because none is coming. So they're raised in such a bubble that they could say that on camera without considering what it would cause in response. That's the kind of bubble they live in. At least Comic Con fans know they aren't really in Starfleet. You know what I mean? So there it is. Grokopedia is coming. Hopefully it'll be better than Wikipedia. I'm all for getting rid of Wikipedia. I think at the very least, at the very least they should pass a law giving people the right to take down their personal pages on Wikipedia. Wikipedia is good unless it comes to anything controversial or anything that's anti establishment. Other than that, Wikipedia is good. So if you want to know about the war, it's bad. If you want to know about COVID it's bad. If you want to know about protesters against establishment, it's bad. Anything controversial Wikipedia is horrible at because it's infiltrated by, by people like that who've been taught. People are teaching classes on how to manipulate Wikipedia. So let's see what happens. I don't, you know, I don't have much faith in another, but Elon Musk has done a much better job with Twitter than any other social media. It's not perfect at by far, but it's a thousand times better than Facebook or Instagram or certainly TikTok. So maybe, let's see what I hope he can do something that's better than Wikipedia because Wikipedia is garbage. So I'm rooting for Elon Musk in this case to do something good. We'll see what happens. I don't have a lot of trust in billionaires to, to, you know, kind of secure our free speech. Well, we'll see what happens. Fingers crossed. Hey, you know, here's another great way you can help support the show is you become a premium member. We give you a couple of hours of premium bonus content every week, and it's a great way to help support the show. You can do it by going to jimmy dork.com clicking on join Premium. It's the most affordable premium program in the business, and it's a great way to help put your thumb back in the eye of the bastards. Thanks for everybody who was already a premium member. And if you haven't, you're missing out. We give you lots of bonus content. Thanks for your support. Now I want to show you the dumbest take. This is. So this is why this doesn't work. So this is the dumbest take about the government shutdown. So this is Robert Reich, who's just a huge partisan liar. Just like all of them. He can't help but try to divide the country. He's all about dividing the country. And here. And I'm going to play this for you. And some of the stuff he says is true, and then a lot of it is not. And let's. Let's go through it. This is. Clinton's former labor secretary was Robert Reich. So here we go, my friends.
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This is not a normal government shutdown.
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Okay? It is. This is a normal government shutdown. This is how it happens. This is exactly how it happens.
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Let me explain the stakes and how we got here. The Trump regime, along with Republicans, wanted to fund the government with a continuing resolution that would have kept existing funding levels the same. But if Democrats had accepted that deal, they would have effectively given approval to all of the terrible and wildly unpopular policies that Trump has pushed through since retaking office. That includes his funding cuts to public broadcasting.
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Okay, those are popular. Those aren't wildly unpopular. Public broadcasting is just a psyop. So PBS and NPR are just a psyop. I hope you know that. Okay, I'm all for that.
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And foreign aid programs.
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And foreign aid programs, too. I'm all for that. I'm all for cutting foreign aid programs. We got to feed people in America. We got a $37 trillion debt. We don't need to be taking care of the rest of the world. In fact, when we do fund foreign aid, we. We use that to control them. That's not. We don't really care about those people. We don't care about people in our own country. We do that so we can use that as a bribe to get them to do something political we want. And when we had on the former assistant to Muammar Gaddafi in Libya, he Said the same thing. He said, we don't need your aid. We need to be able to become self sufficient in Africa. All you do is control us with that aid. And so that's the story that you don't hear in the media, but you hear it here. So he's wrong about all those things. Everything he just said he's wrong about.
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So includes Trump's signature piece of legislation, the big ugly bill that gives the richest Americans a giant tax cut financed largely by cuts in Medicaid, Medicare, food stamps and clean energy programs.
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So he's right about that. There is a big bill again, there's a big tax cut for the richest people in the world in this like, because they don't need it and they are trying to finance it by cutting Medicare and Medicaid and clean energy. I'm all for cutting clean energy. I think that that's being used to control anyway. But here we go.
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That big ugly bill passed the Senate last July because it required only 51 Republicans votes in a special rule called reconciliation.
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Yeah, that's a rule that our government uses, Democrats and Republicans. And if you don't like that rule, get rid of the rule. But he's trying to make it seem like somehow the Republicans invented this reconciliation rule to do. They didn't. This is always. The Democrats use this reconciliation. Anyway, here we go.
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This time Republicans needed Democratic votes to avoid.
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So this time, meaning now the Republicans, they can't pass this continuing resolution to fund the government with a reconciliation bill. They have to do a regular, which means they need a filibuster proof majority, which I think is, what is it, 68 votes. So they need some Democrats to vote. They need 2/3. So they need the Democrats to vote with them. Well, the Democrats aren't, which is why it's shutting down.
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Okay, shut down and continue those big ugly policies. They couldn't do it with just 51 votes. They needed more votes than that because.
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We have a Constitution and that's. The Constitution has a filibuster. And so that's why. So the rules are in place and everybody's playing by the rules. The Republicans use reconciliation, which is part of the rules. And now the Democrats are using filibuster threat to shut down. They need 68 votes, two thirds. Is it 68 or 67? Can you look it up?
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Democrats therefore became suddenly important to them. Why the hell would any Democrat go along with that? I've lived through government shutdowns under normal circumstances. I understand why compromises are made to keep the government running I have been in favor of keeping the government running, but our government is not running right now. It's effectively been shut down for months as Trump has destroyed checks and balances.
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So he's doing this thing. He says Trump has destroyed checks and balances. Well, right now, the Democrats are employing their check on Donald Trump. That's exactly what's happening, the reason why the government is shut down. So if Donald Trump destroyed checks and balances, wouldn't he just pass this resolution?
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Yeah.
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Right. So it's 60. I'm sorry. So it's 67. They need 67 votes. So if Donald Trump had destroyed checks and balances, we wouldn't have a government shutdown, would we? He'd just be doing what he wants and he'd keep the government open. So this is the kind of rhetoric that I can't stand. This is the kind of lying to people. It's dishonest. It's demagoguery, and it's meant to divide the country. It's made. It's meant to make. Make a monster out of Donald Trump. He's following the rules, which is why the government is shut down, because the Democrats are using their check. The Democrats in Congress are using their check on the president, on the executive power. So that. That's what this is, Jimmy. So for him to say this, that Donald Trump has destroyed checks and balances, it's manifestly a lie. It's manifestly 100% propaganda to try to confuse you and misinform you and get you angry at Donald Trump over something that's not true. That's not true. Right now there are checks and balances, which is why they have to pass a bill, which they can't pass right now because they need Democrats to go along with it. So that's called a check. So the exact. So that's why it's. And it's so easy to debunk this. It's so stupid. This is called five minutes of hate. This is. What Robert Reich is doing is five minutes of hate to get you to hate Republicans and hate Donald Trump. That's all this. It's about dividing the country with a falsehood. If it was true, that would be. It's not true. Donald Trump did not destroy checks and balances. In fact, if he did, he would just pass this bill and we'd have the government open and funded.
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The only reason he's in there is because Robert Reich and his pals fucked up so bad.
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That's right. The only.
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I texted you, Jimmy, because I saw that this morning, this idiot saying this. I actually, when I woke up, I saw it. Look at a comment. It's funny that you're doing this as a story because it incensed me when I heard him say that. Dude, not a normal government.
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Yeah, no, the normal government is how we got here. Years of f ups is how we got here. Maybe take some responsibility for years of shitbag policy that made people turn to a game show host. Which is what I said. The reason why people who voted for Bernie Sanders were willing to vote for Donald Trump was because they got and the people and people wouldn't vote for Hillary Clinton. Black people wouldn't vote for Hillary Clinton is because they got screwed over by eight years of Barack Obama. They got screwed over by eight years of Bill Clinton. They got screwed over Bill Clinton.
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Why is Medicaid even at stake if you gave a shit? Democrats, they don't. This is going to like abortion. Another wedge issue.
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That's right.
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We're not going to ratify Roe v. Wade and we're going to blather about it and then they're going to take it away and we'll use that your anger for that to get back in power.
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That's right. So Barack Obama passed a health care plan that came from the Heritage foundation, which is a right wing health care plan, which was Romneycare, instead of passing a left wing health care plan, which would be five, which would they cry about?
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It's part of that.
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Which would have included a public option which gate which gives people the option to buy into Medicare. I don't want to go with Anthem. I don't want to go with Cigna. I don't want to go with all these parasites, these vampires that suck $30,000 a year out of me and then when I need coverage, they don't give it to me anyway. So Barack Obama didn't do that. And so that's why we're in this situation we're in because guys like him, Bill Clinton and Barack Obama made sure we didn't have a functioning healthcare system, just like they made sure we didn't have a functioning banking system. Same thing. Same thing they all did. Bill Clinton deregulated the banks. The economy crashed. Ten years later, Barack Obama kicked 5.1 million families out of house. Well, he made sure the bankers got their bonuses and then he gave us a right wing health care plan with no public option. So we're in the situation we're in right now like they're all working together.
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At the end of the day, it's.
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Like they're all working together at the end of the day. So he's pretending that Trump destroyed checks and balances. Let's let me back this up a.
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Little as Trump has destroyed checks and balances, usurp the power of the purse from Congress.
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And how did he usurp the power of the purse from Congress? You guys are. Right now the Democrats are controlling the purse. They've shut down Congress, they've shut down the government. Right. So if Donald Trump usurped the power of the purse of Congress, we wouldn't have a government shutdown right now. The government would be funded and we keep going. But he needs Congress for their power of the purse. So he's lying to you right to your face. And most of the people who like who watch this believe it. He did not usurp the power of the purse. He did not destroy checks and balances. That's why there's a government shutdown.
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You know what did destroy it? Those stupid impeachments and all those.
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That's right.
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Fucking lawfare things you did.
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Right.
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That destroyed all credibility you have.
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Yeah. Do you don't think that the lawfare you did against Donald Trump, you don't think that impeaching him twice over bullshit. You don't think that the prosecutions of January 6, which was a fed insurrection, you don't think that that destroyed your, your credibility?
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Ok. Because it did unleashed an authoritarian nightmare throughout the country. Democrats cannot.
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He'll unleash an authoritarian nightmare. You know what an authoritarian nightmare is? Is when the government pressures social media companies to censor Americans at the behest of Big Pharma, which is what they did. When the government pressures Facebook and Twitter and Instagram and TikTok to censor at the behest of their donors. That's authoritarian nightmare. And then when the government mandates that you take an experimental medical treatment without any long term studies, or you can't go to work, or you can't travel, or you can't go to school, or you can't eat lunch. That's an authoritarian nightmare. So this authoritarian nightmare didn't just start with Donald Trump. We've been living in it. But they like their version of authoritarianism. When they can force a medical treatment on you like Nazis. They're all for that. They're all for censoring you at the behest of their big pharma donor. They're all for authoritarianism. They just want to make it look like it's just Donald Trump.
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Where's Israel in that? Herr Reich? I didn't hear you mentioning how Israel is the one. Larry Ellison, the shadow president. The Zionist shadow president. I know Peter Thiel's bad. I don't hear you bring up Larry Ellison.
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Cave into this shutdown.
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Democrats cannot cave into this shutdown. So you're telling me the Democrats have power? I thought Donald Trump took away all their power, took away all their checks and balances. He usurped the power. So the Democrats actually have leverage here down.
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They must not operate as if what Trump is doing right now is normal. Because it's not normal.
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It's 100% normal.
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In the short term, Democrats have to use their leverage.
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Oh, so the Democrats have leverage? I thought he was a dictator. You don't have any leverage with a dictator who's destroyed all the checks and balances and usurped the power of this purse. Oh, but they still. Somehow they do. So he's saying two things at once.
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And nobody cares to restore funding to vital programs that millions of Americans rely on, like Medicaid and the Affordable Care Act. And in the long term, they've got to paint a bigger picture for the American people about the devastating realities of Trump's regime. This is an opportunity for Democrats to fight back, not capitulate. Please, if you agree, share this video.
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So the Democrats, you mean they have constitutional ways to fight back against this? Really? I thought Donald Trump got rid of the Constitution. He's a dictator. So, anyway, I agree that the cuts to Medicaid and Medicare are a bad idea for the country because it hurts mostly working people. Yeah, I agree with that. And once if these cuts go into effect, you're going to see this will definitely affect the Republicans in midterms because as Steve Bannon said on the show, there's lots of MAGA on Medicaid and there's lots of MAGA that get ACA supplemental funding, too. Because health care costs are so out of control. If you have a family of four just to use. Just to use health care one time, it's going to cost you about 30 grand. Just so, you know, just to use. If you have a family of four just to access health care once, it's going to cost because you got to pay at least $25,000 in premiums and then you got your deductible, then you got your co pay. So that's just to go to the hospital. Once, it's going to cost you at least $30,000 out of your pocket.
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So that's how crazy not having insurance.
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That that's how with insurance without insurance.
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You would pay less.
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Without insurance, you pay less. So, so I, so, so I agree with him about. We should, we should, we should be cutting the Pentagon, not cutting Medicaid and Medicare. But what they did instead was they ballooned the, the, the Pentagon $200 billion. And guess who didn't complain about that. I didn't hear the Democrats complain about that. Did you hear the Democrats complain about that, Kurt?
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No. Well, they really care about Ukraine and of course Israel because yeah, they wasn't party here.
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They got to have more funding for Ukraine. They want more funding for. They are all on board. So they're all on board for all the worst ideas. The Democrats and Republicans agree on that. So anyway, I just wanted to show you this is the worst take in the world and he's got a lie to do it. And they've been doing this since 2016, lying about Donald Trump to try to win a political battle. And I don't think it works anymore. He's got, he's got. This is not normal. This is, this, it's all normal. What's not normal is when one party and the media decide to paint their public, their political opponents as enemies of their own country. That's what's not normal. What he's doing there is. What he's doing is not normal. Trying to scare you into thinking that we don't have a constitution anymore, that we don't have checks and balances anymore and that the, and that somebody's a dictator, that's not normal. So what he's doing is not normal. What Donald Trump and the Democrats demonize your own.
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Yeah. Your own country. But they all support aipac.
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But they all support aipac. He's not going to say anything about it. He's not going to say anything about Ukraine. They got you to believe that somehow TikTok was this subversive thing from the spying on you by China. So that, that got everybody go, oh God, we got to get. We can't have. China owned our Tick tock. So now let's give it to Israel and Zionists. And now they're coming after Twitter. They're coming after X in the same way. Oh, they're spreading anti. So we go, we gotta have. We got to force a sale of Twitter. We got to force a sale. We gotta make Elon Musk force it. Israel owns both Democrats and Republicans through apac. Your content is against our community guidelines. The guidelines include rules and standards for using TikTok that apply to everyone and everything on our platform. Comment removed. Israel Owns both Democrats and Republicans through apac. Comment removed.
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Oh, I wish China was back in charge.
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Here's another one. Google. Google 61% Israeli men. They took that one down. Have you ever googled 61% Israeli men? It's not good. If you Google it, It says that 61% consider acquaintance grape, not grape. If you.
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That's a fact. So take no Israelis.
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So take. So take the j. They did a survey. The survey was back in 2011, but that's. That's what that refers to. So they. So according to this tweet. According to this Tweet, they posted Google 61% Israeli men. And that got removed by the IDF censor. So they're censoring this. Kurt, do you have any idea what this is about? Okay, so you see this? A picture of a juice box with an apple. Your comment has been removed because of policy violations. What? First they came for the juice boxes and I said nothing. I don't either. Here's another one. Nine year old Banayas from Gaza is sending his message to the global Samud flotilla. Visibility restricted. This video is not eligible for for the for you feed because it violates our community standards. Ifran Hosanna beer says. I uploaded it to Tick Tock, but it was flagged for violating guidelines. According to allows abusive and vulgar content. But videos about Palestine is restricted. There's another one here. See another one. Here's another one. It wouldn't have changed anything. We would have no control if voting worked. They wouldn't. They wouldn't let us do it. Content can't be restored. It was determined that your content violated our community guidelines. What? It's crazy what's happening. Here's another one. Here's James Lee. The new Tick Tock algorithm update is working wonders for Israel. You'll notice the last post I made before the update was a story about Trump fearing for his life because of Israel, which is up with no issues. But two stories I posted since have both been taken down. Okay. Wow.
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I'm gonna be on your best behavior.
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Wow.
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Well, every time I see Larry Ellison, I'm so happy that that guy has got a lot of power over what I can see. The second you look at him, you go, wow, he's got great taste in plastic surgery and great taste in what I should be able to look at.
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So Glenn Greenwald retweeted the one about Democrats and Republicans are both controlled by Israel through aipac. Do some research. So he retweeted it. Glenn Greenwald says there were two venues in the US where Israel criticisms thrived US campuses and TikTok. The campus problems was solved by Trump's new hate speech codes firing professors and DEI for Jewish students. The TikTok problem was solved by giving it to the IDF financier Larry Ellison.
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What are you going to do about Twitter though?
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He's on Twitter saying no, they're coming.
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Stop Twitter.
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They're coming after Twitter. You saw the.
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Thank God.
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You saw the video of Netanyahu. He said next is Twitter. Yeah, you saw that. I played it on the show with Max Blumenthal. Maybe you didn't see it.
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No, I saw this morning and I was delighted by.
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Yeah.
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As you see, can can imagine.
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Israel has completely lost generation Z and taking over Tik Tok won't undo two years of live stream genocide. Alarming survey US college students prefer Palestinians as an ally over Israel.
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Oh, whoopsie doodle. I bet Larry Ellison though, that young hot billionaire who totally believable eyelift surgery, he'll get the young people back. And his cool kids.
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His cool kids get. They have. This is the new slow logo for Tick Tock. I don't have 3D glasses called ztoc. They call it ztok now.
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Oh, I like that. I like the star of Epstein logo there.
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I like what that. This is the former Ariel Sharon. Wasn't he the former prime. Wasn't he a prime minister of Israel?
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Yes. He was later murdered by Jewish terrorists for being less of a killer for two seconds of Palestinians.
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Every time we do something, you tell me America will do this and we'll do that. I want to tell you something very clear. Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We the Jewish people control America and the Americans know it. That's from Az quotes Ariel Sharon. So here's. And here's a quote from Edward Snowden. Edward Snowden says arguing that you don't care about privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say.
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Well, I think a private company should be able to censor me. So there you go.
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So echo chamber tweets out. Number one, force the sale of Tick tock to Larry Ellison. Number two, immediately begin the pressure campaign on Twitter on X. This is happening. So X posted anti Semitism on X. That's X is among the most effective tools for spreading anti Semitism in history study anti Semitism thriving in plain sight on X. So now they're coming after X. They're coming after Twitter now. So they got you to. They Got you to believe that somehow TikTok was this subversive thing from the spying on you by China. So that got everybody to go, oh God, we got to get. We can't have China owned our tick tock. So now let's give it to Israel and Zionists. And now they're coming after Twitter. They're coming after X in the same way. Oh, they're spreading anti side. We go, oh, we gotta have, we gotta force a sale of Twitter. We gotta force a sale. We gotta make Elon Musk force it. Here I saw this was interesting about the future of TikTok. Let's listen.
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Ever since the outset of the genocide.
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In Gaza, TikTok has grown into a.
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Kind of safe haven for pro Palestinian content.
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Influencers and activists get more reach there.
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Than on other platforms like YouTube and X. So it would be in Tel Aviv's interest if one of Israel's supporters were to wrestle control of the platform from its Chinese owners, then retrain the algorithm to scrub genocide from our site.
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Larry Ellison is the founder of Oracle, the tech company.
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He was recently named by the Jerusalem Post as one of six Jewish billionaires who have become the, quote, backbone of Israel's wartime funding.
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And he's now leading a group that's about to take a controlling stake in TikTok. Meanwhile, his son, David Ellison, is taking.
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Control of Paramount Global, which owns CBS News.
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And he's reportedly bringing in a pro.
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Israel journalist, Barry Weiss, to steer CBS's editorial direction. So there you have it.
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Israel is losing the information war in Gaza, so it is shooting the messengers there.
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Journalists and one of its billionaire backers.
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Is set to silence pro Palestinian forces online in America. Okay, and let me, you know when you see them, when you see it says it violates our community standards. Community guidelines. The weirdest part is that those community guidelines are favoring a community that's not even the United States.
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Well, billionaires are here, so the community don't live in Israel.
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The community that the community guidelines that are protecting are in the community in Israel, not even the community in the United States.
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What's wrong with that? Israel so much I want to just squeeze them.
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Squeeze them.
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So I played this guy, this guy has a good take on this. We played this since we, we played this once before them saying that the Jewish people are the masters of the universe. He has a good take on this. Let's, let's listen. I am living out the Zionist dream. I have been at Meta for almost nine years. We banned content claiming Zionists run the world or Control the media.
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Majority of Gen Z have an unfavorable impression of Israel. And my friends, I think the reason that is that we're losing the digital war. When you.
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If you've infiltrated the digital space and you're censoring people, maybe that's the problem. Maybe the problem is that you've continuously tried to lie and gaslight people into believing that you're not committing a genocide in the name of Jews, which has created a worse environment for Jews in America. Maybe you should drop this act that you're God's gift to earth, thinking that you deserve to expand and create your own genocide on different people. Maybe then you'll start to win over the hearts and minds of Gen Z.
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When you think about it, the masters of the universe are Jews. You know, we've.
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Not one ethnicity or race is superior to another on this planet.
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That we've got old minute as, oh yeah, we got Zuckerberg, we got Sergey Brin, we got it's us. And we have to figure out a way to win the digital battle.
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How about just be honest, be kind, care about people. That could be a way to win.
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No, Amelia, we got to get our digital sneakers on.
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We banned content claiming Zionists run the world or control the media.
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And when we do that, the future.
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Of Israel will be stronger because the.
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Majority of of all Americans will support Israel. We'll make that happen.
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We have to make it happen. Thank you.
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So they're saying in both statements here that they want to control the world, but they should ban people from saying that they control the world. And let's be realistic about this. It comes down to people who want to destroy humanity and people who want humanity to thrive. And I think a big issue that we have in our world today is that we pinpoint it and just say all Jews. I think that's a grave mistake on all of our parts. We have to realize that the Jewish identity, the Jewish culture has been hijacked by a select group of people who want to enslave humanity.
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I would agree with them. Most of the Jews I know don't go along with that. They don't go along with Zionism and they don't go along with what's happening in Gaza right now. But they want you to. They want you to conflate all Jewish people with Zionists who want you to do that. Zionists and anti Semites.
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Ironically, Nazis and Zionists came up with that one.
B
That's right. Here's one more slide for this. Matt Strickland says Trump forced China to sell TikTok because of foreign influence. Then he allows Israel to buy TikTok. And his former campaign manager, Brad Parscale now has a 6 million dollar contract with Israel to help game algorithms and force pro Israel propaganda onto young Americans. This is treason. I would agree, I would agree. You're selling your own country out to a foreign country and you're allowing it to be propagandized on purpose. So the thing that you referred, dual.
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Passports don't ensure loyalty to one specific country.
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Jimmy, I, I, I don't get it. The, the only difference between what we're doing and what China is doing is that Chinese workers get dental care. That's all I'm saying.
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And they're allowed to say if they don't like something Israel did.
B
But what is the, what's the larger crime, Kurt? Seeing that both parties are controlled by Apex or that they are encouraging you to do your own research? Which one is a bigger crime?
E
Well, the second one.
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The second one, obviously.
E
Yeah.
B
So I hope somebody comes up with a new format beside, that's, that can compete with TikTok. They say that, what's that red thing? Red book. They say red book can, but I don't know about that because it's, that's for legit Chinese owned and they censor the hell out of stuff. So I don't know what's the answer to this, but right now Twitter or X is the only place you could, you can still speak mostly the truth, they said. But it's not, it's not perfect. But I, I might predict that they will somehow. They will. Honey pot. I mean, because, you know, Elon Musk is, he's quite a, he's very fertile, he's quite a pro, very motile sperm on that. Yeah, he's got a lot of sperm spreading around and I don't think he'd be hard to honeypot. And so we'll see, we'll see if they get him. So if you see Elon Musk announce, I'm going to sell Twitter or X, you know, they got them. They already pretty much got him. He had to, he had to go, remember, he's, he's telling Disney, the head of Disney, to F off, go F yourself because I'm not going to give into your pressure to censor. I don't need your advertising money. And then he flips immediately and goes to Israel. He has to, he has to bang the wall. He has to do that. Right? He has to pretend like he's having sex with the Wall he has to put on the hat and he has to do. He has to go through the humiliation ritual. Why would a guy who's willing to tell Disney to go f off, why would he feel a need to bend the knee? Well, because they probably got some on.
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Him and we'll see any Christian kiss? I mean, not him, he's a Christian. He's in some moon call. But why would any Christian kiss the wailing wall?
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Why would they, why would you, why would you go perform a ritual of someone else's religion that. That's doesn't make any sense. But they all have to do it. So anyway, there's the. How is that not immediately like completely disrespectful to your own country when you're going to go and do that in Israel? When you see all these politicians and Marco Rubio on full display kissing that wall, how is that not treasonous? I don't know. Hey, become a premium member. Go to jimmy dorecomedy.com sign up. It's the most affordable premium program in the business. Freak out. Don't freak out. Don't freak out. All the voices performed today are by the one and only, the inimitable Mike McRae. He can be found at mikemcrae.com that's it for this week. You be the best you can be and I'll keep being me. Don't freak out. Don't freak out. Don't freak out. Do not freak out. I'm not kidding. Do not.
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The Jimmy Dore Show – October 6, 2025
This episode centers on the claim, made by Wikipedia co-founder Larry Sanger to Tucker Carlson, that the CIA and other intelligence agencies edit Wikipedia and influence its content—an allegation that sparks wider discussion on media propaganda, censorship, and control of online information. Jimmy Dore anchors the conversation with comedic outrage, skepticism of establishment media, and deep cynicism toward both government and corporate actors, including Elon Musk’s plans for a Wikipedia alternative.
CIA Edits on Wikipedia:
Dore discusses Larry Sanger’s revelation (from a recent Tucker Carlson interview) that WikiScanner traced government (Langley) edits as far back as 2006–2007.
Censorship and Blacklisted Sources:
Wikipedia is described as maintaining a formal blacklist of “perennial sources”—outlets that editors are forbidden or discouraged from citing as factual.
Alleged Political Bias:
Dore and his guests imply leftist bias in Wikipedia’s editorial process, alongside sustained manipulation by establishment and intelligence-linked figures.
Big Tech & Billionaires – Skepticism of “Philanthropy”:
Jimmy Dore questions motives of tech billionaires like Bill Gates and Elon Musk, expressing doubt about their promises of “impartiality” in platforms like Wikipedia or the forthcoming “Grokopedia.”
Elon Musk's Grokopedia:
Discussion of Musk’s proposed Wikipedia competitor, promising “no limits on use” and “open source knowledge.”
Dore remains skeptical:
“Will the CIA still get to control it, Elon? That’s my question and I think the answer is yes.” [15:18]
Government Shutdown Skit (Satire):
The episode opens with a recurring character “J.D. Vance” calling in, lampooning the current government shutdown and the right-wing direction of the military under Pete Hegseth.
Debate on Checks and Balances:
Dore critiques Robert Reich’s claim that constitutional checks and balances have eroded under Trump.
The Real Threat of Authoritarianism:
Dore pivots to government-corporate censorship (particularly related to social media, Pharma, and mandates) as the true threat, not Trump’s alleged “authoritarian nightmare.” [37:59–38:54]
Israeli Wikipedia Edit Training:
Dore highlights 2010 news segments about Israeli groups teaching Wikipedia propaganda courses—openly training volunteers to “make sure it’s balanced and Zionist in nature.” [23:53–24:24]
Media Platform Acquisition:
The show discusses Larry Ellison (Oracle founder) potentially acquiring TikTok, and his son David Ellison’s control of CBS.
“Larry Ellison is the founder of Oracle… one of six Jewish billionaires who have become the, quote, backbone of Israel’s wartime funding.” [49:56–50:09]
Community Guidelines = Foreign Interests:
Jimmy and his sidekick lament that social media community guidelines are increasingly shaped by international, particularly Israeli, interests—resulting in censorship of pro-Palestinian content. [51:00–51:09]
Jewish Identity vs. Zionism:
Segment discusses the mistake of conflating Judaism with Zionism and state propaganda.
| Timestamp | Quote | Speaker | |---------------|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|----------------------| | 08:27 | “A whole bunch of edits coming from Langley.” | Larry Sanger | | 09:05 | “Wikipedia is like just a gold mine for the intelligence agencies.” | Larry Sanger | | 12:17 | “Red means it’s blacklisted. You cannot cite it as a source of facts.” | Larry Sanger | | 15:18 | “Will the CIA still get to control it, Elon? That’s my question and I think the answer is yes.” | Jimmy Dore | | 24:31 | “They’re just admitting that they’re trying to do propaganda on Wikipedia and… teaching people how to do this.” | Jimmy Dore | | 34:46 | “Right now there are checks and balances, which is why they have to pass a bill, which they can’t pass right now because they need Democrats to go along with it.” | Jimmy Dore | | 38:54 | “You know what an authoritarian nightmare is? When the government pressures social media companies to censor Americans at the behest of Big Pharma…” | Jimmy Dore | | 51:09 | “The community guidelines… are protecting the community in Israel, not even the community in the United States.” | Jimmy Dore | | 53:31 | “We have to realize that the Jewish identity, the Jewish culture has been hijacked by a select group of people who want to enslave humanity.” | Guest |
Tone:
Sharp, sarcastic, skeptical, and often profane, blending genuine outrage with biting satirical humor.