
In 2019 historian and Russia expert Stephen F. Cohen sat down with journalist Aaron Maté to discuss Ukraine’s newly elected President, Volodymyr Zelensky, and the threats he faced from neo-Nazi militants in his own country who were pressing to...
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Jimmy Dore
Come see us on tour. Going to be In Baltimore, Hartford, Connecticut, Syracuse, Atlantic City, Levittown, N.Y. co host, New York and Providence, R.I. go to Jimmy Dore.com for a link for tickets. Who's this?
Jake Tapper
Jimmy, it's Jake Tapper from the lead with Jake Tapper on cnn. On cnn.
Jimmy Dore
Oh, hi, Jake. What's on your mind?
Jake Tapper
Well, I'll tell you exactly what's on my mind, Jimmy. My new book.
Jimmy Dore
You wrote a book? That's great, Jake.
Jake Tapper
Well, it co wrote, to be exact, with the great Alex Thompson a credit where it's due.
Jimmy Dore
What's it called?
Jake Tapper
Thanks for asking, Jimmy. My. Our new book is called Original Sin. President Biden's decline, its cover up and his disastrous choice to run again.
Jimmy Dore
Okay, this is a joke, right? Because that's not what Jake Tapper's book is really called, is it?
Jake Tapper
Not a joke. That's the full title. Really kind of lays it all out there, I thought.
Jimmy Dore
Now that it does. Do you, do you see any irony here, Jake? I mean, meaning you specifically wrote this book.
Jake Tapper
Co wrote.
Jimmy Dore
Yeah, whatever. Do you see the irony?
Jake Tapper
I don't think so. I'm not a big irony guy though.
Jimmy Dore
Jake, you and CNN were instrumental in covering up Biden's decline even when it was painfully obvious, gaslighting the American people into thinking he was fine when he clearly wasn't. You yourself called it a stutter and called his cognitive decline a conspiracy theory.
Jake Tapper
Oh, well, of course, yeah, I'm well aware of that. Does that technically count as irony though? Legit asking?
Jimmy Dore
Yes.
Jake Tapper
Oh, if you say so. Anyway. Oh yeah. The blazing hypocrisy here simply cannot be ignored. And this is by design. As we speak, I am getting absolutely dragged on social media by people juxtaposing my past comments with the title of the book. But what, what does that mean, Jimmy? Publicity for the book. Right. I have more eyeballs on my, I mean our book than on any previous book I and, or also another fella have ever written.
Jimmy Dore
Is that good though? Angry eyeballs?
Jake Tapper
Well, that's the gamble. As you know, Jimmy, you can write a book, but moving more than a few copies is getting harder and harder. So there's a bold new strategy in the publishing industry that we are trying out. What if someone wrote a book that they had absolutely no business writing to the point where the fact that they did write it displays such utter gall? Would people buy the book out of pure rage? Here's hoping.
Jimmy Dore
So this was done on purpose?
Jake Tapper
Oh, absolutely. That's literally why we chose this topic. We Sat down and thought, is there a topic where my reporting and editorializing was proven so completely wrong that it would be ludicrous for me to even mention it ever again? Jimmy, the choice was obvious.
Jimmy Dore
As obvious as Biden's cognitive decline?
Jake Tapper
Absolutely. Which brings me to another point also at play here is a question that goes to the heart of journalistic integrity itself. When is it acceptable to be right about something?
Jimmy Dore
How about from the beginning now?
Jake Tapper
Rookie mistake, Jimmy. But understandable. You see, sometimes a responsible journalist needs to wait until everyone already knows something is true before you report it. To do so earlier than that would be irresponsible. We call it the Jussie Smollett Doctrine. Sometimes calling obvious bullshit makes you look racist. Or in the case of Biden, ageist.
Jimmy Dore
Good grief.
Jake Tapper
And the super responsible journalists like myself before that tipping point will gaslight the public saying they're bad people for seeing the truth for themselves. Like a senile, doddering president. But not anymore. The coast is clear. So buy my book. I mean our book.
Jimmy Dore
Jake, do you realize that this makes you seem like an unreliable narrator? Now for any topic about anything?
Jake Tapper
No.
Jimmy Dore
Okay.
Jake Tapper
Also, our blurbs and promo reflect all this. Check out this quote from me verbatim. Toni Morrison once said, if there's a book that you want to read, but it hasn't been written yet, then you must write it. That's what inspired this book. We wanted to know more about what we all just lived through. More than 200 interviews later, Alex and I have a much better idea. And soon you all will too.
Jimmy Dore
This is unbelievable.
Jake Tapper
Thanks, Jimmy. I appreciate it.
Jimmy Dore
It's. It's wild that you called me to tell on yourself like this, Jimmy.
Jake Tapper
You called me.
Jimmy Dore
Nah. Right? Didn't you call the show?
Jake Tapper
Jimmy was literally five minutes ago you called me on my cell phone.
Jimmy Dore
I could have sworn.
Jake Tapper
Gotcha. See how easy it is to gaslight when you're a trusted journalist? Still got it, baby. Had you going questioning your own sanity and everything. Anyway, we're off on a big book tour. Hopefully that will help move some pulp, as we say in the biz. Thanks for letting me use your platform to help sell what would appear almost to be a practical joke played on an unsuspecting public. Jake Tapper tapping out.
Jimmy Dore
Establishment media sucks. August Light. And so good luck. Bullshit. We can't afford why he's fomenting this. Watch and see as his jack golf the medium speeds and jumps the medium and hits him head on. It's the chimmy door show. It turns out that Zelensky was Being pressured to start a war, to provoke a war with Russia, do everything they could, break all the peace agreements, and here's what, and I'm going to show you a video in a second. Aaron mate says in October 2019, House Democrats were preparing to impeach Trump and declaring that his pause on a U.S. weapons package to Ukraine was a grave threat to national security. Remember when they wanted to impeach Trump for the best thing he ever did, pause the shipment of weapons to Ukraine? Well, I mean, that was the best thing he ever did before throwing Zelensky the hell out of the White House. I mean, come on, that was pretty good, wasn't it? Amid the frenzy, Stephen F. Cohen, who recently passed, he was the foremost authority on Russia in the United States. He issued a warning. Rather than pushing to arm Ukraine, Cohen said Washington should be defending Zelensky against the Ukrainian extremists who were trying to sabotage his peace mandate. His life is being threatened by a quasi fascist movement. Cohen told me he can't go forward with full peace negotiations unless America has his back. Cohen's warning was ignored because America didn't want peace either. Across the political spectrum, it was ignored. The political and media established sided with the fascists. Trump didn't sell out to Zelensky today. The UNIT Party already did that years ago. So here's what, here's what Stephen F. Cohen said. Now this, keep in mind, this is back in 2019 and he refers to it already as this war because even though the war didn't officially start until 2022, it was already ongoing. It had already started, started. The war everyone in the US thinks started in February of 2022, had already been ongoing for five years when this was recorded. Here we go.
Stephen F. Cohen
You have a situation now which seems not to be widely understood, that the new president of Ukraine, Zelensky, ran as a peace candidate. This is a bit of a stretch and maybe it doesn't mean a whole lot to your generation, but he ran a kind of George McGovern campaign. The difference was McGovern got wiped out and Zelensky won by, I think, 71, 72%. He won an enormous mandate to make peace. So that means he has to negotiate with Vladimir Putin. And there are various formats, right? There's the so called Minsk format, which involves the German and the French. There's bilateral directly with Putin. But his willingness, and this is what's important and not well reported here, his willingness to deal directly with Putin, which his predecessor Poroshenko was not or couldn't or whatever reason actually required considerable boldness on Zelenskyy because there are opponents of this in Ukraine and they aren't.
Jimmy Dore
Yes. So for Zelenskyy to actually negotiate with Putin and get peace to the ongoing war, it required a lot of boldness from Zelenskyy, the kind of boldness that could only be provided by cocaine. But here we go.
Stephen F. Cohen
Some people say they're fascist, but they're certainly ultra nationalist and they have said that they'll remove and kill Zelensky if he continues along this line.
Jimmy Dore
That's right.
Stephen F. Cohen
Negotiating with Putin. So now along comes Trump. Right.
Jimmy Dore
So the forces inside Ukraine, the extreme Nazis, the Azov battalions, those type, had threatened Zelensky and said, if you make peace with Putin, we're going to hang you from a light pole in town square. And so, you know, I have sympathy for Zelensky in this situation because he did run as a peace candidate. 71% of the vote, overwhelmingly Ukrainians wanted peace, but he was being, his life was being threatened, and I'm sure it still is.
Stephen F. Cohen
So Trump makes a wrong headed phone call to Zelensky about Biden and information. It was a wrong thing to do. No two ways of looking at that. But the more important thing is, and, and that's why I'd like to see the full transcript of the. We've only been given a partial so far as I know. I want to know if Trump encouraged Zelenskyy to continue the negotiation with Putin. And here's why. Zelenskyy cannot go forward, as I've explained. I mean, his life is being threatened literally by crazy fascist movements in Ukraine. He can't go forward with full peace negotiations with Russia, with Putin, unless America has his back. Maybe that won't be enough. But unless the White House encourages us to blow, Zelensky has no chance of negotiating an end of the war. So the stakes are enormously high.
Jimmy Dore
So that's just so you know why Zelensky, who ran as a peace candidate, has been pushing for war ever since. Because the United States, NATO, Boris Johnson and the fascists and the Nazis inside of his own country have been threatening to kill him if he does negotiate peace. So that's what's really happening here. And you know, he looks like a guy negotiating out of the fear of his own life. I think that's why he acted like such a jackass at the White House the other day. And just to remind everybody what I'm talking about when I talk about Nazis, every news organization in the world reported that Ukraine had a Nazi problem. Kaz tweeted out, Isn't it funny how Western articles before 2022, which is when Russia invaded, were documenting Ukrainian neo Nazism. And. And then all of a sudden Western media is like, hey, there's no Nazis in Ukraine. And meanwhile, soldiers wearing totem cups and black sun runes start appearing in media. So I'm going to guess these are Nazi insignia, right? Black sun nunes and totem cops. Hope I'm saying that correctly. And he says, isn't it funny? I don't know. Funny. Is it funny haha or funny tragic? I guess both. I guess both. And here, I just want to show you here. So here's, there's from the Times of Israel. It says Ukraine celebrates Nazi collaborator bans Book critical of pogroms Leader the Atlantic Council Ukraine's got a real problem with far right violence. And no, RT didn't write this headline. Hundreds march in Ukraine an annual tribute to Nazi collaborator. Violent antisemitism is gripping Ukraine and the government is standing idly by far right fighters. So you see all this? So that's what they were. Even. Even a CIA cutout like Bellingcat, because that's what Bellingcat is says. Yes, it's still okay to call Ukrainian C14 Neo Nazis. Even a CIA cutout like Bellingcat, which does the bidding of the war machine. And the neocons, even they were saying that. So I just want to. All my Hollywood friends and all my friends on social media who are so proud of standing up for the blue and yellow, you're past the point of just being embarrassing and you are dangerous idiots now. Okay, it's no longer about explaining any of this to you because you either can't process this blatant information or you don't want to. But yes, the colors are very pretty. Here's more. Ukrainian designates national Holiday to commemorate Nazi collaborator Kiev's far right groups refused to disarm FBI Neo Nazis militia trained by US military in Ukraine now training US white supremacists. So this is all real, just so you know. And these are. And there's, you know, Jewish people actually wrapping themselves in the Ukrainian Azov flag which. Have you ever been out to eat with a Jewish friend and they order bacon? It's like that, but kind of a million times worse than that. There's more Ukraine conflict. White power Ukraine conflict. Child soldiers joined a fight. Who was this? Stefan Bandera? Right. German TV shows Nazi symbols of helmets on Ukraine soldiers. There they are. Far right extremists in Ukrainian military bragged about Canadian training Report says that's from ctv. A new Eurasian far right rising. That's from Freedom Hustle. And they're all. It's all about them being Nazis, just in case you weren't. So I just have a public service announcement for. This is your shitlib friend. And they are not able to process inconvenient information. Won't you help? All we are asking for is several billion dollars. The price of a carton of eggs. There's more. So I could do this all day. Ukraine Underplays Role of far Right in Conflict Ukrainian Neo Nazi C14 vigilantes drive out Roma Families Burn their camp. So there it is. Politico has. I mean, every new Western news organization was reporting this up until Putin and Russia invaded Ukraine. Then everything flipped. This is from July 7, 2015, the New York Times. The Azov group is openly neo Nazi, using the wolf's hook symbol associated with the ss. That's from the New York Times. Okay. And from those humble beginnings, they turned into something gargantuan, just like Amazon. But the only thing they deliver back in a box is their soldiers. This is from USA Today. This is from 2015. Voluntary Ukrainian unit includes Nazis. And that's something. Hey, I think you're making a big deal out of nothing. I mean, come on. Zelensky, he's. He's Jewish. So obviously Ukraine can't be lousy with Nazis if their president is Jewish. That's like thinking Will Smith is gay. Obviously. He's not gay. He's married. Representative ro Khanna in 2018, who turned into a big Ukraine war hawk. He says this is a dangerous development. This is. So the dangerous development is Trump administration plans to sell 210 anti tank missiles to Ukraine in a major escalation of direct lethal aid. He was against it. He says this is dangerous development. This will only escalate tensions in a conflict that has already killed over 10,000 Ukrainians. Our government should be actively promoting a negotiated solution, not introducing more lethal weaponry. Well, he flipped on that. Representative Ro Khanna and he went along with the war machine and the neocons because he's a, you know, a politician and a puke and. Yeah, just like. Just like most politicians, just like Bernie Sanders, just like the squad, you know, just like Joe Biden. We. So this is. What is this from? Oh, it doesn't say. We also must ensure that these weapons do not reach white supremacist elements within the Ukrainian army, such as the Azov battalion. The House has repeatedly voted to block weapon deliveries to this group so that was what they were saying. He's saying back in 2018. There's 2018 commentary. Ukraine's Neo Nazi problem. It doesn't stop, folks. This is from 2018. When we can't agree to fight against neo Nazis. We've reached a new low. That's from the Hill. Here's another one from 2019. Neo Nazis in the far right are on the march in Ukraine. Are there really neo Nazis fighting for Ukraine? Well, yes, but it's a long story. That's from 2022. That's from Salon 2022. I mean, anyway, I just. It keeps going. It just keeps going. One of my favorite headlines of all time, Azoff battalion drops neo Nazi symbol exploited by Russian propagandists. If you can't see that, that's what it says. The Azov battalion drops their neo Nazi symbols exploited exploit. Can you see how they're saying that? Yeah, that's the only real problem with Ukrainian Nazi pride. That it can be exploited by Russian propaganda. That's the only problem they have Neo Nazi pride. There it is. It's. They. I gotta tell you, they're. They're really good at spin. Here is the only problem with sporting Nazi symbols on your military uniform is the fact that Russians can exploit this in their propaganda and call you a Nazi. Yeah, that's the only problem. Hey, I just said that. I just said that. This is from December 2022, the ADL issue statement declaring Ukrainian Zazov battalion no longer far right. Oh, that was fast. Oh, well, if the ADL says it's fine, then that's all we need. Boy, the ADL is nicer to these Nazis than they are to the squad. Isn't that kind of amazing? Nazi symbols on Ukraine. This is from June 2023. Nazi symbols on Ukraine's front lines highlight thorny issues of history. That's how the New York Times is reporting it now. Isn't that something that nice? So, business insider, John McCain went to Ukraine and stood on stage with a man accused of being an anti semitic neo Nazi. No kidding. That's a real shocker. Ricky Roma says here's 2014 photo of Murphy and McCain with Ola Tnranbeck. I don't know. The leader of the neo Nazis Svoboda party whose political views included things like calling for Ukrainians to fight against a Moscovite Jewish mafia and halt the criminal activities of organized Jewry. That's who these guys are hanging out with. But I caught for interviewing interviewing a boogaloo. Boy, let's all remember that. Let's all remember that, shall we? Max Blumenthal. Oh, here. So here's there's a. An Azoff Battalion guy with the Nazi symbol on his elbow. When Jon Stewart presented this Azoff Battalion veteran with the heart of the team award, he covered up his neo Nazi black sun tattoo with the compression sleeve. So there he is, he's wearing the sleeve. There's Jon Stewart hanging a medal on that guy. I never pass up an opportunity to point that out. I always like to point out that Jon Stewart Jew hung a medal on a legit Nazi. Why? Because he told the truth about COVID origin and he tried to make up for it. So he had to hang a medal on a Nazi. He never tell his audience the truth about the Ukraine war, ever. He had to give a tongue bath to two blood soaked war criminals, Condoleezza Rice and Hillary Clinton. He had to go on to not tell the truth about COVID the rest of COVID or the vaccines or anything. In 2019, Wyatt Reid says Zelensky began his presidency by going to Eastern Ukraine and pleading with the AOF to implement a ceasefire. They refused, humiliating him on camera. Fitting that he ends his presidency by once again being humiliated on camera and forced into one. Forced into a ceasefire. That's what he means by that. Wow. Nerd tech says correct. Oh, so why. So he retweets it and says correct. Zelensky tried to order the neo Nazi troops on the front lines to obey the ceasefire, withdraw away from the front line of contact. They refused and laughed at him. Then they and other politicians threatened Zelensky's life, after which he got the message and its war escalation. The Ukrainians neo Nazi group Azov threatens Zelensky. Don't ever think about signing a truce because it will be very bad for you. Chief of Staff of the Azon Regiment. No peace without victory. There is only one victory. Not a single Russian soldier on Ukrainian territory. We will not leave this war to our descendants. And if you won't either, because if you try, it will be bad for you and for them. If this is a test, don't even think about it. This is essentially an announcement of an impending internal conflict in Ukraine. Zelensky and the President's office express readiness to lower their demands and negotiations, while the radical part of the military threatened them. So that's what. So that's the kind of stuff that Zelensky was under. Nerdtech says these nationalist battalions were trained, armed and funded by the US, NED and USAID and the CIA since 2014 precisely to wage a proxy war versus Russia. So the fact that the United States administration now blames Zelensky for the message is simply a lie throwing another victim puppet under its bus. Yeah, so that's what it's like. So as Henry Kissinger said, it's dangerous to be an enemy of the United States, but to be the United States friend is deadly. And that's what's happening here. So, I mean, we can throw a lot of ire at Zelinsky and. But he's been threatened every which way by the United States, by NATO and by the fascists, far right nationalists, Nazis, in his own country. So he did try to do peace at first. He did try to get the Nazis, the Azov battalion, to cease fire. And they laughed at him and they said, we'll kill you. And that was that. And so now you know what's really happening. So what's really happening isn't that Zelenskyy is really a crazy warmonger. What's really happening is he's being forced to be one. And he's a pawn and a puppet. He's a pawn and a puppet of NATO pawn and the puppet of the neocons in the United States and a pawn and the puppet of the Nazis in his own country. And now he's being humiliated by Donald Trump. So just wanted to let you know the real facts about Zelenskyy and who's actually pulling his strings. So I hope he has a bunker all set up when the specialists show up to teach him how to suicide, do suicide against his own will. You know, Steve Bannon was on this show and he warned that they're not going to allow Zelensky to get out of this. He's not going to be allowed to go to France and start a vineyard. I would just tell Zelensky that it was, you know, it's a good idea to study history about the people you're in business with. I guess he never heard of Osama bin Laden or Saddam Hussein. They were all in business with the United States and the CIA. And where are they now? Oh, that's right. That's right. Hey, you know, here's another great way you can help support the show is you become a premium member. We give you a couple of hours of premium bonus content every week and it's a great way to help support the show. You can do it by going to jimmy door comedy.com, clicking on join Premium. It's the most affordable premium program in the business. And it's a great way to help put your Thumb back in the eye of the bastards. Thanks for everybody who was already a premium member. And if you haven't, you're missing out. We give you lots of bonus content. Thanks for your support. So we all saw what happened with J.D. vance, Donald Trump, and Zelensky in the White House. It's amazing, the different reactions. So the brainwashed and the brain dead think that somehow Zelensky is some kind of victim instead of what he is, which is a criminal who's skimming money and wants to prolong a war. But he's also, in his defense, he's being pressured by lots of different types of people to keep that war going. Some of the most powerful people in the world and some of the biggest killers in the world. So. But Matt Gaetz went on a scorched earth campaign on Twitter, tweet after tweet after tweet, going after Zelinsky. It started off with this, Zelensky is a grifter. Look at that. 44,000 likes on that, 1.3 million views. And you could tell I liked it. And so there he's. So that's. That's what kind of started it off. Zielinski is a grifter. He went on to tweet out a video of. Now, this is a congresswoman from Indiana who's also Ukrainian, and he tweeted this out. Let's listen to it.
Jake Tapper
If you could give advice to President.
Jimmy Dore
Trump right now about this minerals deal.
Jake Tapper
That is floating around, his desire that mirrors your and mine to end the war, what advice would you give President Trump?
Unknown Speaker
You know, to be as tough as you can with them? You know, when I came to Ukraine, I understand who these people are. Actually, Zelensky and I are the same age. He was born in 1989. So we both grew up in the tough, wild 90s. And you see what's happened. When socialism fall apart, you have criminal activity. I mean, there were, you know, I mean, this was pretty bad. And he grew up in very criminal areas. So I understand who these people are, and I was very tough on them. And I said, you know what? You can do whatever you want with your money and weapons, but with our money and weapons, we'll tell you what to do, and if you don't like it, you can go to hell. And I probably said even tougher word.
Jimmy Dore
Whoa. So that's. That's someone with a very thick Ukrainian accent telling him to go to hell. So he tweeted that out, and then he retweeted this tweet. There it is. So he retweeted it out. There it is also this Representative Steve Womack tweeted this out. So there's Zelensky. And he said President Zelensky movingly spoke of Ukrainians fighting for their lives and, and against Putin's evil. We've seen the atrocities. There must be consequences. America and the entire global community must stand with Ukraine and provide them with what is needed to defend freedom and their nation. Now that's just someone, I'll tell you, right, that's just someone who doesn't care about how many Ukrainians get slaughtered because the war should have. The more, the longer this war goes on, the worse it is for Ukraine and they, if they end it today, this is the best time, the best time for them to end it was yesterday. The second best time is today. The worst time is tomorrow because Russia is just going to take more land and there's going to be more Ukrainians slaughtered. So Matt Gates retweeted it out and said another member of the Zelensky wing of the Republican Party. So he's going right at Representative Steve Womack. Oh, that was old. So that was from March 16th of 2022. So he's going back and he's exposing all the people who were part of the lie that is the Ukraine war. Now, again, most of my, I still live in Hollywood and most of my friends in Hollywood believe what they see on tv. They believe any, everything that the government says and what the news says about the Ukraine war, they believe what they say about the Syrian war, the Libyan war, the Afghanistan war. They don't believe them about Iraq anymore, but they did. So it's kind of so. So that's. He's picking out, he was picking out old tweets, retweeting them and giving comments on it. So there's a. So that's Matt Gates going scorched earth on Womack. And then here is one from Michael McCall from 2022. It was an honor to meet the first lady of Ukraine and her inspiring words and hear her inspiring words. We approach the six month mark of Putin's war on Ukraine. We cannot forget our humanity and we must continue to stand with Ukraine. Now these people know the true story, that this war was provoked by NATO, the United States Biden administration, the neocons and the war machine. And he retweets this again. This is all yesterday, Trump's dog walking Zelensky exposed Zelensky. Sure, he's talking about their meeting at the White House, but it also exposed the failed foreign policy of the neocons who would send endless amounts of your money overseas, like this Republican Congressman Michael McCaul. He's not messing around. This is one from April 23, 2024. Republicans for Ukraine Senator Chuck Grassley. I don't buy this notion that it is conservative or Republican position to abandon the American leadership that has kept the peace. I make no apologies for supporting Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan in the face of threats from the axis of anti dictatorship. He retweeted that yesterday and said, I'd probably apologize for the Ukraine part. I think he should apologize for all of it. That's where I'm from, that's where I'm at. But I'll take it. I'll take, I'll join with Matt Getz where we agree and there it is. You agree on the Ukraine part. So that's nice. Look at that. So he's going scorched earth on all of them. Here he is again, 23 hours ago, before Trump and J.D. vance did their brilliance with Zelensky in the Oval Office. This was the nonsense foreign policy doctrine that governed D.C. republicans as articulated by. There it is again, Representative McCaul. And he tweets out a minute and 38 second video, which I'm not going to bother to play because the point of this is to show how Matt Gaetz is going scorched earth on the neocon Republicans who have been duping the American people into sending hundreds of billions of dollars to another pointless war that is an economic war. Okay, just so you know, here he is. And then he retweeted this video from when he was on in December of 2022 on that when Tucker Carlson had his show still on Fox News before they fired him for telling the truth about the Ukraine war. He thanked him. He tweets. So yesterday he tweeted this out. McConnell and Pelosi brought Zelensky to Congress to provide air cover for an indefensible spending bill. Ukraine gets economic development, agriculture and border patrol. We get racial equity mandates for us here at home. I'm not sorry, Lauren Boebert and I won't stand for it. So he tweeted that out. Thank you, Tucker Carlson. So yesterday said, thank you, Tucker Carlson, for allowing me to make these points about Zelensky in 2022. Got white. His teeth look there. Very white. So this is funny. Hillary Clinton tweeted this out. Wouldn't want to be Putin, wouldn't want to hurt Putin's feelings. And it's a picture of Pete Hegseth, the Defense Secretary Trump's Defense Secretary Hegseth ordered Cyber Command to stand down with Russia. Right. So they're making peace overtures. Hillary Clinton, who's a blood soaked psychopathic warmonger, she tweets that out and says wouldn't want to hurt Putin's feelings. So she still wants to play this McCarthyism, this, this ramping up of tensions. She doesn't want peace. She never did. She's a warmonger. She's a, she's the worst kind of warmonger. And then Pete Hegseth reach responds with this. And it's pretty nicely. So what who that is? That's Lavrov. That's the Russian Foreign Minister. And there they are pressing a button. It's called the Great Reset. Remember, they're doing the Great Reset when she was Secretary of State. Well, we're all getting. We're going to be buddies with Russia again until we need to make them be our enemy again so we can sell more weapons and do more war. So that was a pretty good burn. And Matt gets reposted crooked. Hillary just got owned. Matt gets retweeted that his whole timeline is just filled with this kind of stuff about Ukraine. Here's one more. This guy, Derek Van Orden, he said, I'm a member of Congress and a former Navy, former Navy Seal and the longest serving enlisted member of the United States military to ever be elected to Congress. In history of my country, I have served in uniform, in combat, in multiple areas of conflict. I must be Frank with you, Mr. President. How you treated my president, real Donald Trump. He's talking about Zelensky and my vice president, by trying to talk over them and show disrespect in our Oval Office was reprehensible. I will not be voting for an effing nickel in military aid for you until you get your mind right. This can be in public or in private, but I will remind you that the slim majority in our House of Representatives. I can stop any initiative, including the money coming to you. We want peace in Europe, but in no way, shape or form will America ever be your bitch. Feel free to contact my office if you'd like support. So he's still offering his support. He just wants Zelensky to. So he's trying to play both sides. That's what he's doing. And Matt Getz catches it and he says Van Orden has been a reliable Zelensky simp up into this point. Matt, he's not. He's going after Navy seals, he's going after congressmen, senators, he's not messing around. Here's one more. So do you see this? Keir Starmer, that's the Prime Minister action, not just words. Britain stands with Ukraine today and always. And he tweets out. So there they are. There's Keir Starmer embracing Zelensky. And he says, you can have them. Here's one more. He retweeted this. Representative Victoria Sparks has joined Matt Getz show on Friday to discuss Zelensky's disrespectful behavior in the Oval Office. He failed to defend his country being an insulting to. Being so insulting to the American people after how much was done by us for Ukraine and for Europe. I can't believe this. So he retweeted that out. That was on March 1st. He retweeted that. And then Mark Levin, the great Mark Levin, he tweeted out, Zelensky, great leader. He tweeted out. I think we can all agree the great one nailed this take. Now, to be clear, I've consistently been against the US Involvement in this war. So I'm a little, I think, think he's making fun of him. Mark Levin was Mark Levin, is he being sarcastic here? Because Mark Levin was always for the Ukraine war. As far as I'm can tell. Mark, you used to berate House conservatives for opposing funding to Ukraine. When did you change your mind? Or have you. So he's going after talk show hosts, popular conservative talk show. There's nothing conservative about supporting the Ukraine war. It's just neocon warmongering. So he went after him, went after senators, went after Congressman Matt Gaetz on the warpath going scorched earth. And I say tip of the hat, great job to Matt Gaetz. So Putin pulled a brilliant move. Do you know how Donald Trump was demanding rare earth minerals out of Ukraine to pay for the war that we funded. And well now put, first of all, as the Duran, the gentleman from Alex and Alexander pointed out, they don't even have all the, the Russia has more rare earth minerals than Ukraine, something like 70% more. Now, Putin just said he's willing to go and have a deal. So if the United States needs rare earth minerals, he'll get in business with us. So again, it just, it just lays bare the propaganda from the neocon warmongers about Putin and Russia. Russia and Putin want to do business with Europe. They want to do business with the United States. They want to do war. So here, here's what he said. Here's what he said. Putin offers us, he said, by the way, we would be open to cooperation with our American partners. And when I say partners, I mean not only administrative and governmental agencies, but also private companies if they show interest in working together. Russia possesses significantly, I want to stress this, significantly larger resources of this kind than Ukraine. Russia is one of the uncontested leaders when it comes to rare and rare earth metal reserves. We have deposits in the north, in Murmansk, in the Caucasus and all those places, as well as in the Far east, in the region, Yakatiya Datuvuva. Developing these resources requires substantial capital investment. We would be happy to cooperate with any foreign partners, including American companies. Yes, and the same is true for the new territories. We are open to foreign partnerships, so called new or historical territories that have become part of the Russian Federation, again, also hold certain reserves. We are ready to work with our partners, including. Including Americans. I mean, this is the reality. And this is what people like Stephen Miller, Mersheimer, people like Oliver Stone, people like even Chomsky, everybody who knows anything but Jeffrey Sachs. This is that people who are serious grownups and not warmongering neocons have been saying, we need to make peace with Russia and become partners with them. And this proves it. And everything you've been told about Russia and Putin, just about all of it, has been war propaganda. Let's keep in mind in the 21st century, this is the most valuable substance on earth. These rare earth, they're used for everything, right? From not only bomb making, but to the, you know, cell phones, electric cars, the batteries we use for everything. Let's pretend that Zelensky is earth, and rare earth minerals are cocaine. That's how valuable they are. Russia's Putin outlines potential aluminum, or aluminum, if you're from across the pond, rare earth deals with the United States. So Russia and Ukraine are like two guys then recording the same girl. One shows up in a limousine with champagne and a bouquet. The other gets dropped off by Uber and asks if she has a car. Okay, just so you know. So Russia President Vladimir Putin offered the US the opportunity for joint exploration of the country's rare earth metals deposits, as well as the supply of aluminium to the US Domestic market under a future economic deal. US President Trump earlier said that major economic development transaction with Russia would take place within two hours of Trump's statement. Putin chaired a meeting with his ministers and economic advisers on rare earth minerals. And you know, we're running out of aluminum because Bill Gates keeps dumping it into the atmosphere. Or at least I heard that somewhere, but my memory is really foggy now. If you know What I'm talking about. You see what I'm saying? You get the joke? Sure you do. You're a Jimmy Dor show watcher. Russia has the world's fifth largest reserves of rare earth minerals, according to the U.S. geological Survey data, after China, Brazil, India and Australia. Russia reserves are estimated at 3.8 million metric tons. The rare earth metals are used to make magnets that turn power in motion for electric vehicles, cell phones, missile systems and other electronics. Russia mines only 2500 tons of concentrate a year and lacks capacity for processing. Putin said that potential rare earth metals exploration deals could also be extended to deposits in territory in eastern Ukraine that Russ Russia controls. After three years of military action, Putin noted that Russian companies could also supply up to 2 million tons of aluminum to the US market annually if the US market reopens. Russia used to provide up to 15% of US aluminum imports before prohibitive duties were introduced in 2023. Putin said that joint projects could be extended to the energy sector as well and that some Russian and US companies were already in touch. He did not give details. Wow. It's in little tiny moments like this that I briefly hold the hope that we could have a Star Trek future, if you know what I'm talking about. One where we don't fabricate enemies to keep the war industry overriding all the others. Brief moments like this. Here's what DBS Morocco says. Putin's rare earth minerals proposal reveals an inconvenient truth. Ukraine's role in global supply chains has been exaggerated. Ukraine isn't a rare earth powerhouse and the US has little reliance on its resources. Meanwhile, Russia's vast reserves in nations like Greenland offer more dependable alternatives. The Biden administration pushed Ukraine's indispensability to justify unchecked military aid. But the data tells a different story. Putin's offer underscores Ukraine's declining leverage. With strong leadership, the United States can reduce reliance on unstable regions, prioritize national interests and build resilient partnership. It's time to end the war, stop reckless spending and focus on real solutions. Ukraine was never the linchpin. It made it. It was made out to be. Well, said DBS Morocco, of course, the rare earths, where are. Where in the world are they? Where are all the rare earths? Well, let's look. Let's look. They're in China. China tops the list for reserves and mine production. While the US has 1.5 million tons in reserve, it still depends on China for refined rare earths. Here, Vietnam. Look at that. Vietnam has some India, Brazil, Canada has some a. Russia, Russia, Greenland, Tanzania, South Africa, Australia, and other countries. Okay, so brilliant move by Putin. Brilliant move. And, you know, you really got to be trying hard to keep believing the war propaganda about Russia and Putin. You really got to be trying really hard. You got to be a neocon or a shitlib. And believe me, they're still doing it. They're still doing it. Trump kicked Zelensky out of the White House, and he gave him a good spanking, which he needed. I think he wanted. He needed. And this guy's crying over it. I'm not kidding. That says man cries over Zelinsky getting kicked out of the White House. I just want to be next to him right now. Let me just say this. If that makes it. If that makes him cry, wait till he hears how the government treated Lahaina. Lahaina.
Unknown Speaker
Lahaina.
Jimmy Dore
Lahaina, Asheville and East Palestine. That's all I'm saying. I could have said if I didn't skip over that. It would have been funnier. So let's listen to him. Want to hear him? Here we go.
Unknown Speaker
I don't give a. What he wears. This man has been respectful to every leader in the world. Everybody.
Jimmy Dore
This is real.
Unknown Speaker
And you clowns want to do that to him when he comes over here?
Jimmy Dore
It takes a big man to acknowledge his feelings and have a good cry, especially for the camera. I love he has the. The dude bro reverse hat on to. To keep his. To keep his butthole in the shade. I guess that's what that's for. Anyway, where did. Where do you. Where did you find a guy with a real Southern accent to fake cry this hard for Zielinski? Kamala should have put this guy in his ads instead of using all those obviously gay guys. That's what I think. Here we go. He's got more.
Unknown Speaker
And then talk to him, like. And kick him out of the White House. You disgraceful son of a. Man. I just want to be next to Zansky right now. I wish I could talk to him. Forgive us.
Jimmy Dore
Forgive us.
Unknown Speaker
Hot damn, man. I can't. I can't. Sorry, y'all.
Jimmy Dore
I'm sorry, y'all. I can't.
Unknown Speaker
I can't believe what I just witnessed in our White House.
Jimmy Dore
And now let me edit this together and put it through my filter. My. My filter. Let me use an editing program, download it onto my MacBook Pro, and then put it up on Tick Tock. Well, I. I think we know who the backup Trump shooter was on the first attempt, so it really does it takes, I say it takes a small to medium sized man to start crying because of a fascist getting thrown out of the of the White House. That's what I think. I can't stand to see a grown man cry. If you'll send me your information, I'll buy you a plane ticket. If you really want to help and go on the front lines and do your best. Good news, you'll only need to buy a one way ticket to the Ukrainian Foreign Legion and National Guard. They're both looking for people. Yeah, I hear you. I don't know, he looks a little young for the Ukrainian infantry. I mean he only looks like he's about 36. The Ukrainian infantry, are they mostly in their 50s? Not only, not only this guy, but they were these bunch of totally not funded by USAID type money. Dark money. Protests for Ukraine to keep the war going after Trump humiliated Zelensky in the White House. Pro Ukrainian protests erupt across US After. Really? They erupted. Protests did not erupt. It was more like a wet fart that Protests against the Trump administration erupted across the US On Saturday following an unprecedented Oval Office clash where Donna Tanahan and J.D. vance escalated tensions with Ukraine's president, Voldemort Zelensky. Hundreds of protesters gathered in Waitsfield, Vermont. What? On Saturday morning To oppose the Vice President's visit to the state for a ski trip with his family. Oh, that ought to do it. Are you kidding me? You're kidding me. They're protesting JD Vance going on a ski trip. The demonstration had been planned earlier in the week by the Mad River Valley chapter of Indivisible Authors. They're just horrible Democrats. So that's all this is a grassroots organization group. I bet they're taking dark money. But additional protesters said they were motivated to join after watching Vance and Trump's combative White House meeting with Zelensky on Friday. By grassroots, they mean founded by congressional staffers with dark money. I think that's what they mean by grassroots. Protesters held signs reading Vermont stands with Ukraine. Really? Why don't you go list and international embarrassment while many waved Ukrainian flags in solidarity, showing you just how well corporate pro war propaganda works. Fox aired video of the protesters, but blurred out signs displaying messages against Vance and in favor of Ukraine. After what he did yesterday, he crossed the line, protester Cory Giroux told Vermont Public Radio. So I just want to show you. Dan Cohen tweeted this out. Back in his comedy days before being president, Zelensky did an entire routine about the corruption in Ukraine. Want to hear it? Watch this. So he says in this. This is not a scam or some pyramid scheme. It's really simple. You give us money, and later we don't give it back to you. 100% guaranteed. That's. This is what. This is it. Okay, so I'll read it to you. Ready? So you can turn that down. What exactly is the Ukrainian. And hang on, let me try it again. What exactly is the Ukraine and why today it is such an attractive place to throw money away? Sorry, I meant to invest. You know, we have reached an absolute new level in our economic development. It's called panhandling. It's really that simple. We beg for whatever surplus the market economies around us possess. It's a winning strategy endorsed by gypsies and everybody laughs. We simply apply it worldwide, but without guitar accompaniment. This is kind of amazing, isn't it? This is not a scam or some pyramid scheme. It's really simple. You give us money, and later we don't give it back to you. 100% guaranteed. Look, he's doing political comedy just like me. Wow. It's amazing because Zelenskyy's jokes about Ukraine are far more honest than anything Jon Stewart says about Ukraine. Isn't that something? That's kind of amazing. He's telling you the scam and why Ukraine. So corrupt. Wow. So, again, if you're one of these people who are out there with Ukraine flags and thinks you're just a dupe of propaganda, unfortunately, 95% of the people I know in Hollywood are that. They just love it. They cling to it, and it has to do with them hating Trump. So anything that's opposed to Trump, they love. That's why they bought the propaganda on ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine and the COVID 19 and the Fauci and all that stuff, and the dancing nurses. It's amazing how easy propaganda works and how well it works and how stupid comedians I used to respect are, how easily they fall for government propaganda. We're supposed to be the antidote to government propaganda. Comedians. I've lost so much respect for so many of them. It's kind of amazing. Joy Behar got herself in a little bit of trouble. She. She said something, and then she has to quickly backtrack that. They do that a lot on the View lately. I don't know if you've noticed, but let's watch the latest. Here's the episode of Oops. I shouldn't have said that from the View.
Joy Behar
I don't think he Ever wanted really the responsibility of the job. He's not really bright enough to handle the job. And Elon Musk kisses his butt and strokes his tiny ego or big ego, whatever it is. And he doesn't get to do. He can take a nap. While the guy was not born in this country, who was born under apartheid in South Africa, so has that mentality going on. He was pro apartheid, as I understand it. He's a naturalized citizen, Right? He's a naturalized citizen now he's a naturalized citizen. Oh, really? How did he do that? Did he come over the border legally?
Jimmy Dore
Isn't it amazing watching Joy Behar turn into a xenophobic redneck? Isn't that amazing? Now she hates immigrants. You're not a real citizen. Isn't that amazing? Tune in to ESPN for Joy Behar's ESPN NASCAR roundup. And then. And then a few moments later.
Joy Behar
Musk was pro apartheid. I don't really know what for sure if he was. He grew up at that time when apartheid was in full blown before the great Nelson Mandela fixed out. He was around at that time, but maybe he was, maybe he wasn't. He might have been a young guy, too. Might have been. So don't be suing me, okay, Elon? They're allowed to say any lie they want, but we have to be really strict. That's why this show is important.
Jimmy Dore
Yeah. So I don't know if you caught what she just did there. She had to apologize for saying something that isn't true and then beg him to not sue her and then made it like he's the bad guy because he's going to sue her for slander. Did you see what she just did there?
Joy Behar
Musk was pro apartheid. I don't really know what for sure if he was. He grew up at that time when apartheid was in full blown before the great Nelson Mandela fixed that. He was around at that time, but maybe he was, maybe he wasn't. He might have been a young guy, too. Might have been. So don't be suing me, okay, Elon?
Jimmy Dore
Don't be suing me. I just covered my ass from on my slander from ABC tell that I'm doing on ABC television.
Joy Behar
They're allowed to say any lie they want, but we have to be really strict.
Jimmy Dore
They're allowed to say any lie they want, but we got to be really strict over here with our lies. Isn't that amazing? Yeah. The lie I just told. I had. Legal just told me. I had that commercial break. I got her corrected. We got to be really strict about our lies. Did you. Did her subconscious just be betray her in mid sentence?
Joy Behar
That's why this show's important.
Jimmy Dore
That's why this show's important. Even she doesn't believe it. So you're like, oh, did that do it? Did that do it? That's why this show's important. Your show's not important. Joy. I don't know if I. I hate to be the one to break it to you. Your show's not important. Jesus Christ. Okay, good to see Joey Wehar. Have to apologize and beg Elon Musk not to sue. Hey, what are you afraid of? It's not like he could afford a good lawyer. Hey, become a premium member. Go to jimmy door comedy.com sign up. It's the most affordable premium program in the business. Don't freak out. Don't freak out. All the voices performed today are by the one and only, the inimitable Mike McRae. He can be found at mikemcrae.com that's it for this week. You be the best you can be and I'll keep being me. Don't freak out. Don't freak out. Don't freak out. Don't freak out. Do not freak out. I'm not kidding. Do not. Do not. I'm not. I'm not.
Stephen F. Cohen
I'm not.
Jimmy Dore
I'm not. I'm not. Freak out. Don't freak out. Do not freak out.
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Podcast Summary: The Jimmy Dore Show – "Zelensky Is A PAWN Stuck Between NATO & Ukrainian Neo-N@zis!"
Introduction
In the March 5, 2025 episode of The Jimmy Dore Show, host Jimmy Dore delves deep into the geopolitical tensions surrounding Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. The episode, titled "Zelensky Is A PAWN Stuck Between NATO & Ukrainian Neo-N@zis!", critiques the roles of NATO, neo-Nazi factions within Ukraine, and the influence of Western media and politics in perpetuating the ongoing conflict. The discussion is marked by Dore's characteristic blend of passion, satire, and incisive commentary.
1. Jimmy Dore Interviews Jake Tapper about His New Book
Timestamp: [00:16] - [05:11]
The episode opens with an unexpected guest appearance by Jake Tapper from CNN. Tapper introduces his newly co-authored book, "Original Sin: President Biden's Decline, Its Cover Up and His Disastrous Choice to Run Again." Dore immediately expresses skepticism, questioning the book's authenticity and pointing out the irony of Tapper's previous dismissal of concerns about President Biden's cognitive state.
Notable Exchange:
The conversation quickly turns confrontational, with Dore accusing Tapper and the mainstream media of gaslighting the American public. Tapper defends his work, suggesting that public outrage could drive book sales, but Dore remains unconvinced, highlighting the potential unreliability of journalists who may not always present the truth transparently.
2. Zelensky: A Pawn Amidst NATO Pressures and Internal Extremism
Timestamp: [06:05] - [27:59]
Dore shifts focus to President Zelensky, arguing that he is trapped between external pressures from NATO and internal threats from neo-Nazi factions within Ukraine. He cites Stephen F. Cohen, a noted authority on Russia, who warned that Zelensky's peace efforts were undermined by Ukrainian extremists resistant to negotiation with Vladimir Putin.
Key Points:
Notable Quote:
Dore presents a series of media headlines and reports to substantiate his claims about the prevalence of neo-Nazi groups in Ukraine, suggesting that Western support inadvertently strengthens these factions. He asserts that Zelensky's aggressive policies are not purely his initiative but are coerced by external and internal forces aiming to prolong the conflict.
3. Russia's Rare Earth Minerals Proposal and its Geopolitical Implications
Timestamp: [27:59] - [47:44]
A significant portion of the discussion revolves around Russian President Vladimir Putin's proposal to engage in joint exploration and supply of rare earth minerals with the United States. Dore argues that this offer exposes the exaggerated role of Ukraine in global supply chains and highlights Russia's superior resources in this domain.
Key Points:
Notable Quote:
Dore emphasizes that Russia's vast reserves and willingness to cooperate with Western partners present a viable alternative to continued involvement in Ukraine. He criticizes the Biden administration and neoconservative elements for perpetuating the conflict to sustain the war economy.
4. Political and Media Reactions to the Ukraine Conflict
Timestamp: [47:44] - [60:23]
Dore critiques various political figures and media personalities for their unwavering support of Ukraine and perpetuation of the conflict. He highlights a series of tweets and public statements from Republicans like Matt Gaetz, Steve Womack, and Mark Levin, accusing them of promoting a war agenda driven by neocons and propaganda.
Key Points:
Notable Exchange:
Dore underscores a perceived disconnect between the public narrative and the underlying geopolitical and economic motives driving the U.S. support for Ukraine, urging listeners to critically evaluate the information presented by both political elites and the media.
Conclusion
In this episode, Jimmy Dore presents a provocative critique of the Ukrainian conflict, challenging mainstream narratives and highlighting the complex interplay between political agendas, media portrayals, and on-the-ground realities. Through a combination of interviews, media analysis, and political commentary, Dore urges listeners to question the motives behind sustained U.S. involvement in Ukraine and to recognize the broader implications of geopolitical strategies driven by powerful interests.
Selected Quotes with Timestamps
Jimmy Dore [02:36]:
"What if someone wrote a book that they had absolutely no business writing to the point where the fact that they did write it displays such utter gall. Would people buy the book out of pure rage?"
Stephen F. Cohen [08:32]:
"Zelensky cannot go forward with full peace negotiations with Russia... unless America has his back."
DBS Morocco [47:44]:
"Putin's offer underscores Ukraine's declining leverage... It's time to end the war, stop reckless spending and focus on real solutions."
Jimmy Dore [58:17]:
"That's why this show's important... Even she doesn't believe it."
Disclaimer
This summary reflects the viewpoints and discussions presented in The Jimmy Dore Show episode titled "Zelensky Is A PAWN Stuck Between NATO & Ukrainian Neo-N@zis!" The opinions expressed by Jimmy Dore and his guests are their own and do not necessarily represent factual accuracy or mainstream perspectives.