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Mark Wolynn is one of the foremost experts on inherited family trauma and the author of the award-winning It Didn't Start With You — and what he shared in this episode stopped me in my tracks more than once.We go deep on how trauma doesn't just live in our own nervous systems — it travels through generations and through our biology. Through the stories we tell ourselves about who we are and why we struggle. We talk epigenetics, core language, somatic healing, unconscious loyalty to our family systems, and what it actually means to individuate (to come home to yourself)without abandoning the people you love, and also how to do it, without involving those people. Heal Yes. This conversation will expand your understanding of how trauma travels through family bodies, and how to work with that. His book absolutely shifted my own perspective on my family dynamics, and lifted my own shame about how my body had adapted to that. This one is for anyone who has ever felt like they were carrying something that wasn't entirely theirs, and who feels foggy, lost and invalidated in their struggles. You can connect more with Mark's work here, he just came out with a revised edition of "It Didn't Start with You" and new workbook: https://markwolynn.com/https://markwolynn.com

I have another amazing mama and woman for you today! One that was once a stranger on the other side of the internet (and country) and has now become yet another incredible woman in my orbit who has both received and provided me (and so so many others) with the life-giving, shame relieving, hope believing, exhale inducing magic that women naturally intuitively freely provide (when they're in the right conditions). Olivia, a mother of two toddlers, talks about her transformation from self-doubting, overextending, body-overriding to being an embodied, intuitive, confident and connected mama and person. I won't stop telling y'all, that all of this abilities and default settings are inside of us, we just need to be supported and guided (for a period of time) to show our bodies that they are no needed anymore. Summer Safe Inside starts June 9th, but if this conversation just reminds you what is possible, and expands your hope for your healing process and your precious self (and family), that's enough for me. XOXO

I have decided to pepper the summer with podcast episodes of the incredible women that are in my phone, that inspire, amuse and reinforce my faith daily that women are brilliant, and are absolutely gonna be alright. You see, my phone is filled with Marco Polo groups of women that have done Safe Inside (my 6 week somatic coaching container) and Safe in the Shadow (my 6 week somatic group coaching container, only available to those that have done the first one), sharing their lives, their thoughts, their most transformative latest song, their favorite noise cancelling headphones, and their empathy, their wisdom, and their precious lives, with each other. It is truly magical, what happens when you smoosh values-aligned women together, give them some shared somatic healing and a container to connect, and you just see what ancient engrained instincts come forward in their cars after drop off, at their office desks, and in the stolen moments they can find with each other. Corey and I talk about her story parenting a spicy strong-willed sweetie pie and how that was her catalyst into this level of healing, how her dynamic with this child and all of her children has shifted, and how she has settled into "realness" in her home, for everyone that lives there, absolutely including her. You'll love her and this convo. Safe Inside for the Summer starts June 9th! Link in my bio. XOXO

I was a guest on Nicole's Podcast "Heal Out Loud," and the convo was so darn good, I wanted to copy and paste and make sure my people got to experience it too. We went deep into what it actually means to love yourself — not the aesthetic version, not the bubble bath version, but the version that makes loneliness lose its grip. The version that stops you from needing someone else in the room to feel whole.We (of course) talked about the nervous system, and the inner child, and the essential relational experiences with yourself that nobody ever taught you to have, that repair and rewrite what we internalized about ourself and our feelings. Nicole and I talked about real life ways we wonkily relate to ourselves in the middle of life logistics, and in response to life logistics. For me personally, I feel a new level of clarity and embodiment of my authority as a teacher, and public figure, and this episode with Nicole felt so safe for me to articulate my work and what I want you all to know. Thanks for listening as always, for being here, and for trusting me with your sweet ear holes, body and heart. And of course, that little inner sweetie, who is listening always. And if you want to connect with Nicole and her work further, she can be found here: https://www.instagram.com/evolvingwithnicole/

Oooo this is such a timely and potent episode with the light, wise and innovative Wendy Synder, Parent Coach and author of the forthcoming book Fresh Start Your FamilyPowerful Parenting to Restore Peace in Your Home. Having been in the parenting field for roughly two decades each, Wendy and I explore what it really means to parent with both firm boundaries and deep connection without falling into shame, fear, or control.We tackle the tricky balance many modern parents struggle with of how to discipline your child without yelling, how to stay connected when your nervous system is on fire, and how to raise strong, emotionally healthy kids while repeating our own old patterns with less intensity, frequency, and shame. We unpack the truth behind positive parenting vs. permissive parenting, and why the real goal is powerful, connection-based parenting where rules plus relationship equal respect (heal yes!). I share a real-life parenting moment from my own home (hello, dishwasher standoff), and we break down exactly how to move from guilt, frustration, and reactivity into grounded, authoritative leadership that actually works.We also, of course, touch on the time we're parenting in, how parenting is a spiritual practice and how it calls on every cell in our being to stretch and trust and love in a way we never have before, and we're still expanding into. Wendy. is such a kindred spirit, I know you'll love her like I did! You can access her body of work on her website: https://freshstartfamilyonline.com/ and her book releases May 26th!

What does somatic healing actually look like for a millennial mom in the middle of real life?In this episode I sit down with Allie McQuaid to talk about the specific emotional landscape millennial moms are navigating right now — burnout, identity, boundaries, and the societal and patriarchal pressures that shape so much of the motherhood experience without us even realizing it.We cover somatic reparenting and inner child work, what emotional regulation actually requires from us, how media and culture have shaped our sense of self, and what reclaiming joy and personal power looks like in practice.It's an honest, wide-ranging conversation about the real work of motherhood — and what becomes possible when we stop performing and start healing.Allie only sees Mamas locally, but you can access her IG for inspiring and educational content! https://www.instagram.com/millennialmomtherapist/

This episode with Tricia Wilson, fellow facilitator of the Circle of Security Training, hits to the root of all we need to know as parents. Circle of Security is a simple, powerful way of understanding what children actually need from us. Essentially, it shows us that kids move out into the world to explore (the top of the circle), and then come back to us for comfort, connection, and regulation (the bottom of the circle). Our role is to be the “secure base” they can go out from, and the “safe haven” they can return to—watching over them, delighting in them, helping when needed, and welcoming them back when things feel hard. That’s it. Not perfection—just presence.I was introduced to this framework as a clinician when my children were small, and it organized my parenting and helped me streamline my energy to the place of the highest importance, I tell may anecdotes in the episode to illustrate what Circle of Security did for me (and my kids)!And this isn’t just a nice idea—it’s deeply rooted in decades of attachment research. From Bowlby’s early work on attachment, to Mary Ainsworth’s observations of how children organize around safety, to modern neuroscience showing how co-regulation literally shapes the developing nervous system—this model reflects what we know to be true: children thrive when they experience consistent, attuned, and repairing relationships. Security isn’t built through getting it right every time. It’s built through connection, rupture, and repair.Tricia is also a mother of 5, she birthed three boys who she parented the traditional high control/high punishment way, and then adopted two girls who had experiences attachment trauma, pushing her to find something that actually worked. Tricia is the author of the book "Adopting Grace; A Parenting Journey from Fear to Freedom," and she also has a prolific substack where she writes about family life, social justice and deconstructing from high control shame-based religion. You can find her work here: https://triciawilson.com/blog/Enjoy the episode!

What an important conversation with wise seasoned clinician, writer, and somatic couples therapist Jordan Dann we have for you today. Jordan illuminates how implicit attachment dynamics play out in couples (that alone is worth the listen!), we talk about the drama triangle (something that was so powerful for me to learn and work with in the last year), shifting from codependence to interdependence, and we really touch on and tackle this exact moment, where these dynamics are playing out on the national stage. She talks about "trauma porn," and this exact moment our society is in, witnessing heaps of harm without repair and what that does to our systems, and we both get teary talking about the human-to-human connection we can have in the streets, the post office, and how it feeds the field of humanity we're all swimming in. This was such an honor to speak with Jordan, and anyone struggling with their partner right now would so benefit from her work! She has a course for couples on her website here: https://jordandann.com/And her IG links all of her work, including her passionate wise Substack. Enjoy the episode!!

Ready for to exhale? My goodness, my ancestral healer Kathryn Blau is here to groundedly expand our awareness into the ancestral support available to us all, and my Lord we need it more than ever down here on this motherloving earth plane. Kathryn is a mama herself, and was trained by Dr. Daniel Foor, one of the leading experts in ancestral healing for personal and cultural transformation. I wanted to wait until I finished working with Kathryn and all four of my faily lines (you'll understand what that means soon) before recording with her, and offering her up to you all. And I'm so glad to finall have the space to tell you the many many magical healing stories of my work with her, and how this aspect of healing has been essential in my healing process and navigation of very challenging logistics in my personal life, especially in the past year. In times like these, we need all the assistance we can get, and our ancestors are dying (I couldn't help myself) to help!Ancestral Intervention y'all, that's the AI we're into. You can connect with Kathryn and her work here. So many of my friends and clients have worked with her (she offers individual and group work online) cannot recommend her enough! https://www.regenerate-healing.com/

MN-born Kathleen Hoagland LPC has stepped in to meet the moment of the acute and collective trauma that is happening in Minnesota and to our country at the hands of ICE. In this conversation, Kathleen inspires and soothes us by explaining the therapeutic mutual-aid she has organized for the people of MN, she empowers and educates us on the various nervous system responses that are happening for all of us right now, and de-patholigizes all of it, she gives us micro-choices to land on in the midst of our stress responses to soothe our nervous systems and gradually start the process of moving us back into "Safe and Social," and we also talk about anger, agency and how to work with our body and old unconscious experiences in our own personal lives that might be coming up right now. We also talk about raising white boys at this moment, our own anger, our own complicity as white women, and what we are doing with those feelings as women. This is a good one y'all and I wanted to put it in your ear holes ASAP. Take care of yourselves, more soon. XOXO