Does Cheating Justify Public Humiliation?

Summary

Podcast Summary: U Up? – "Does Cheating Justify Public Humiliation?"

Date: July 24, 2026
Hosts: Jordana Abraham & Jared Freid

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Overview

This episode of U Up? brings a lively, nuanced discussion on the boundaries of public shaming in dating, sparked by viral flyers about a cheating ex, and dives into the culture surrounding vindictive dating behavior. Jordana and Jared assess whether such fallout is justified, prudent, or just plain petty. They also debate an anonymous "secret crush/ex" website and reflect on generational legacies, family stories, and social media’s effect on romance and breakups—with plenty of signature humor and relatable vulnerability.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Warm-Up & Banter (00:00–08:14)

• Dead Phone Energy:
  Hosts riff on how "cool" and "confident" it is not to care about charging your phone, with Jared positioning himself as the overprepared "dad" on a trip—"Dying phone is hot, girl shit." (00:17, Jared)
• Jared’s High School Award:
  Jared shares his excitement and embarrassment about receiving his high school’s distinguished alumni award, joking about its gravitas compared to actual achievements like "the governor" and "the astronaut."
  • Quote: "So it's me, Williams who went to space, and me, who talks about farts, who takes up space." (01:27, Jared)
  • Family reaction is funny and underwhelmed, with his parents more interested in family matters and his dad asking if he's getting paid for the honor.
  • Jordana’s takeaway: "If you have to ask, you shouldn't get the award." (07:44, Jordana)

Reflections on School, Family, and Legacy (08:15–16:25)

• Commencement Speeches & Real-World Prep:
  Jared critiques the "AI is the future" advice at graduations.
  • Quote: "The speech is supposed to be motivating, not like, 'get back to the books and start learning how to code.'" (09:34, Jordana)
• Value of College Names:
  They debate whether Penn State or Cornell opens more doors.
  • Quote: "Anyone who believes that Penn State on a résumé means something to someone, I would say you're delusional." (11:30, Jared)
• Family Roots, Gender & Knowledge:
  Jared talks about being first-gen college grad and shares family stories, exploring why he knows so little about his ancestry—"I don't think men know… Men don't. We don't want to look back. His sisters know everything." (15:19, Jared)
  • Jordana highlights women’s role as family historians.

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Main Topic: Does Cheating Justify Public Humiliation? (20:26–30:19)

The "Are We Dating the Same Guy?" Flyers (21:14–30:19)

• Scenario:
  In Indianapolis, a woman is plastering her cheating ex’s face/photo and "quotes" on light poles all over town. The quotes are generic ("Women who want me to open doors… are high maintenance...") and vague offenses.
  • Quotes from flyers, summarized:
    • "I will love bomb you like crazy… get ready for the emotional roller coaster."
    • "You can take the trash out of the trailer, but it will still be trash."
• Debate: Petty or Prudent?
  • Jordana: Questions the proportionality ("I don't know if that deserves to be on a light post." 22:39)
  • Jared: Doubts the fairness and entertainment value—"This is kind of the problem with the punch up, punch down nature of the Internet." (26:15)
  • Both agree that while it's "savage" in a gossipy sense, it's also "sad" for both the man and the woman posting.
    • "If I met a woman who was doing this, or thought it was funny, I'd be like, I guess we're just two different people." (28:10, Jared)
    • Quote: "I find it sad for the people who are… married in the group who like, get off to this." (28:58, Jared)

Gender and the Double Standard

• Both hosts weigh how such "vigilante" shaming would be perceived if men did it, and note that most men wouldn't call this "epic or savage."
• Audience Complicity:
  • Discussion on the women who contribute or "cheerlead" such actions, even when divorced or married: "Why are you in there? Is this what you do? Honestly?" (29:21, Jared)

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Tech & Dating: The "When We Match" Site Segment (31:23–37:34)

Secret Matching with Exes and Crushes (31:23–37:34)

• How it Works:
  You secretly enter an ex or a crush’s name; if they do the same, the site matches you up for a chat—otherwise, no one knows.
• Hosts’ Takes:
  • Pros: Jordana sees the appeal for those genuinely scared of rejection—"sometimes people… just really have no idea how the other person would feel… I think there's something kind of cool about it." (33:10)
  • Cons: Jared warns this "makes something that shouldn't be easy, easier." (37:19) They both agree that initiating contact after a breakup should involve some vulnerability and risk.
  • Memorable exchange:
    • Jared: "Love shouldn’t be easy." (37:28)
    • Jordana: "Coming back after a relationship ends… I kind of like it more for a crush." (37:30 & 37:34)
• Design Suggestions:
  • Jordana proposes checkboxes for intentions ("Just thinking of you" vs. "Desperately want you back"), and Jared recommends a year-long cooling-off before allowing matching to protect against impulsive moves.

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Personal Stories & Stand-Up Culture (37:35–39:56)

• Analogy to Medications, Self-Control, and Social Commentary:
  Jared describes a debate with another comic on Ozempic and willpower, drawing connections to how society views self-improvement, mental health, and blame.
• NYC Comedy Cellar Anecdotes:
  Insights into behind-the-scenes dynamics where comics, like Jon Stewart, stand their ground in heated debates.
  • Quote: "You would think as a famous person, you just, like, let it go. No, he was like. He stood up to someone. I always respected him for it." (39:45, Jared)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Jordana on the public shaming flyers:
  "I don't think this makes the person look like a vigilante. This kind of seems like a woman who's crazy." (25:33)
• Jared’s male perspective on revenge posting:
  "Anyone who tells me this story and thinks it's savage—I go, okay, cool. I don't even debate them because they're not worth me debating." (27:06)
• On “When We Match” concept:
  "If I was sure I was gonna be so happy and let's run away together, I would've done it earlier." (37:04, Jared)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:00–08:14: Award news, family banter, "charging your phone" as a personality trait
• 08:15–16:25: College commencement, Penn State vs. Cornell, family legacies
• 20:26–30:19: Main topic – public humiliation for cheating; Indianapolis flyers; "Are We Dating the Same Guy?" group analysis
• 31:23–37:34: Anonymous matching website, fear of vulnerability, pros/cons
• 37:35–39:56: Comic debates at the Cellar, parallels to willpower/mental health, Jon Stewart’s leadership
• 39:59–40:05: Sign-off

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Conclusion

Jordana and Jared deliver an entertaining, empathetic breakdown of revenge tactics and humiliation in the post-cheating landscape, ultimately questioning their effectiveness and emotional toll. They remind listeners that vulnerability, self-restraint, and healing are core to real dating and growth, even in a digital world filled with shortcuts for connection—or vengeance.

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Transcript

[Jared Freed]

Emily doesn't charge her phone, which I find insane.

[Jordana Abraham]

That's kind of hot. Could die at any minute.

[Jared Freed]

It just doesn't give a. I have

[Jordana Abraham]

friends where their phone's always dead, and I'm kind of like, imagine just being that. Like, not, like, confident to just be like, someone needs to reach me. That's their problem.

[Jared Freed]

You're so right. Dying phone is hot, girl. Shit. Even the look of it. We got on a plane and I pull out two chargers. I'm like, one for you, one for me. Like, I'm the dad. I'm Danny Tanner.

[Jordana Abraham]

Oh, good.

[Jared Freed]

She's cool, girl. Oh, I guess I could charge it.

[Jordana Abraham]

Yeah. I don't really care. You're not. If it was me and my phone, I'd be like, thank you so much.

[Jared Freed]

Right.

[Jordana Abraham]

Hello, and welcome back to the Friday Feels episode of the UF Podcast. I'm Jordana Abraham.

[Jared Freed]

And I am Jared Freed. It is so. It is so good to be back here with you, Jordana. Our opening is all over the place today.

[Jordana Abraham]

Still reeling from your. I think we're both still reeling from your honor that you. That you got during our last recording.

[Jared Freed]

That's why if you're watching on YouTube. I was on the phone when we started. I'm, like, trying to figure out the name of it, so I was honored if you didn't listen to Wednesday's episode. I was given the George A. Dennett Distinguished Career Award, and it recognizes accomplished alumni from Needham High School who have made significant societal contributions.

[Jordana Abraham]

Wow, that makes you sound like you, like, read the Cure for polio.

[Jared Freed]

Right. Well, listen to my group.

[Jordana Abraham]

I think you can.

[Jared Freed]

Williams, who went to space me, who

[Jordana Abraham]

talks about farts, who takes up space.

[Jared Freed]

Charlie Baker. I think he was the mayor of Boston.

[Jordana Abraham]

Wow.

[Jared Freed]

I gotta call my parents. So we want.

[Jordana Abraham]

Let's call them.

[Jared Freed]

Save this. To call my parents to see. And let me just warn you.

[Jordana Abraham]

Do you think your parents would be more excited about this or if you said you were engaged?

[Jared Freed]

Engaged? My parents, let me just warn you, have been on one. They've been for. For whatever reason, they're, like, on a vacation. Like, they're at, like, Vero Beach. They're on the beach. Every text with them has been bizarre. Like, my dad made a proclamation. I'm. He's like, I'm cheering against the US Men's soccer team.

[Jordana Abraham]

Yikes.

[Jared Freed]

Anti America stuff. Weird stuff. They're sending me pictures of the person climbing, you know, the Empire State Building. Like, well, that.

[Jordana Abraham]

That's normal.

[Jared Freed]

They. So who should I call? My mom? Or my dad. I, I, I don't think, I think they're not going to buy. They're going to tell me this.

[Jordana Abraham]

Who would be less proud?

[Jared Freed]

My dad.

[Jordana Abraham]

Okay, then call your dad.

[Jared Freed]

Let's call my dad.

[Caller/Guest (likely a parent or family member)]

Okay.

[Jordana Abraham]

That's probably the better reaction person. Who's less impressed. Wow. Not. Does not pick up as fast as you're mine.

[Jared Freed]

My mom. Half a ring. Maybe they're back already. I, they have been like the last couple days, just like.

[Caller/Guest (likely a parent or family member)]

Hello.

[Jared Freed]

Hi, you're now dad. You're on the podcast. I want to let you know.

[Jordana Abraham]

Hello. Welcome.

[Caller/Guest (likely a parent or family member)]

Fantastic. Very. That's really exciting.

[Jared Freed]

You're excited.

[Jordana Abraham]

He has exciting news.

[Caller/Guest (likely a parent or family member)]

You're on the Florida Turnpike now.

[Jared Freed]

Oh, thank you. So we're all in very important places.

[Jordana Abraham]

Yes.

[Jared Freed]

I have your mom. Oh, Mom's on the phone, too. Good. I got you both. Are you guys ready for some news?

[Jordana Abraham]

Guess what the news is.

[Caller/Guest (likely a parent or family member)]

What?

[Jared Freed]

Guess what the news is that I'm calling you with because I just, I would say.

[Caller/Guest (likely a parent or family member)]

You want to tell me that your brother's trying to get pregnant?

[Jared Freed]

No. No. Trying to get pregnant. What do you think they call me before having sex?

[Jordana Abraham]

Why would you be the one to tell?

[Caller/Guest (likely a parent or family member)]

We understand they're giving it a go.

[Jared Freed]

Okay, well, I'm happy for them. That's not what this call is about. I'm not calling you to let you know Harry and Ruthie are fucking without protection.

[Caller/Guest (likely a parent or family member)]

I.

[Jordana Abraham]

What are you doing on October 3rd?

[Jared Freed]

What's that?

[Jordana Abraham]

What are you doing on October 3rd?

[Jared Freed]

No. October 30th. What are you doing on October 30th the night before Halloween?

[Caller/Guest (likely a parent or family member)]

That October 30th. That's the cruise.

[Jared Freed]

No, no. Is it?

[Caller/Guest (likely a parent or family member)]

That's, that's the Daily Light gets trick or treating.

[Jared Freed]

Right. Well, it's Halloween, so I want to let you know I have been. I just found out that I have received the George A. Dennett Distinguished Career Award from Needham High School recognizing accomplished alumni who have made significant societal contributions.

[Caller/Guest (likely a parent or family member)]

That's unbelievable.

[Jordana Abraham]

And who have you beat out?

[Caller/Guest (likely a parent or family member)]

So what do you do about.

[Jared Freed]

Guess who I beat out? Ali Raisman.

[Caller/Guest (likely a parent or family member)]

Wow. Well, that's a little ridiculous. What's so good about her? That was many years ago.

[Jared Freed]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Jordana Abraham]

Enough not to overshadow your.

[Jared Freed]

Why we don't call you often. It's me. Me, Suni Williams. The astronaut. And Charlie Baker.

[Caller/Guest (likely a parent or family member)]

Oh, God. The governor.

[Jared Freed]

The governor.

[Jordana Abraham]

Oh, the guy. He thought he was the mayor.

[Jared Freed]

I thought he was the mayor. October 30th in the morning. I got to go and do a talk with the high school Juniors.

[Jordana Abraham]

It's going to get the key to the city

[Jared Freed]

at Needham High.

[Caller/Guest (likely a parent or family member)]

Are you getting paid?

[Jordana Abraham]

That's a good question. That's a good.

[Jared Freed]

I'll find out if I'm getting paid.

[Jordana Abraham]

That's a good question.

[Jared Freed]

Do you guys want to come?

[Caller/Guest (likely a parent or family member)]

No.

[Jared Freed]

Okay, good. I'll send you some pictures. It's too cold.

[Caller/Guest (likely a parent or family member)]

Unless. Too cold. But if you wanted us to, we'd come.

[Jared Freed]

No, that's okay. I'll go and I'll receive the award. Can you believe it?

[Jordana Abraham]

Hometown hero.

[Caller/Guest (likely a parent or family member)]

I was hoping a movie or something. Or you were that next door neighbor. Or you were telling us that you were gonna get engaged to Emily.

[Jordana Abraham]

How do I know?

[Jared Freed]

I don't know. I just was wondering what you might think.

[Jordana Abraham]

We should do that on a con.

[Caller/Guest (likely a parent or family member)]

Is having another baby? Yeah, a little.

[Jordana Abraham]

It's a little soon.

[Jared Freed]

A little soon. She's good.

[Caller/Guest (likely a parent or family member)]

Those girls are just precious.

[Jordana Abraham]

Oh, thank you.

[Jared Freed]

Big fans of the girls.

[Caller/Guest (likely a parent or family member)]

Bring them to us. I want to see them.

[Jordana Abraham]

I will. I'll be bringing them to Florida in the winter.

[Jared Freed]

Gotta go. Goodbye. Thank you.

[Jordana Abraham]

I love your mom. She always brings it back to my kids.

[Jared Freed]

Always brings it back to the babies. Unbelievable.

[Jordana Abraham]

That was hysterical. That the first thing they thought was that it was that you were gonna tell them that your brother was gonna have a baby.

[Jared Freed]

That was not that my brother was having a bit. Trying to have. What a weird. What thing to think I would know

[Jordana Abraham]

and that you would be the one to like.

[Jared Freed]

Right.

[Jordana Abraham]

Tell them that it's crazy. Speakerphone guest. Is he gonna care?

[Jared Freed]

We got a clip. So that. Unbelievable. I'm so excited.

[Jordana Abraham]

I'm excited for you. Is it paid?

[Jared Freed]

No, it's an honor, you know. Well, I guess if you get.

[Jordana Abraham]

Think of all the endorsements from all the local Needham. Needham shops that you could get.

[Jared Freed]

Wouldn't you think that it would be a weird turn of events to be honored as a distinguished career? Like I'm getting the Distinguished Career Award and then I'm like any money so paid gig. The juniors in high school will be like, we don't want that career at all. He's begging for money. Like the whole ability. I'm excited.

[Jordana Abraham]

If you have to ask. You shouldn't get the award.

[Jared Freed]

If you can't afford to come get your award for the Distinguished Career Award, then you are not really having a distinguished career.

[Jordana Abraham]

I feel like your dad should be your manager.

[Jared Freed]

No, he would be. If my dad was my manager, where would you.

[Jordana Abraham]

Where would you be in life?

[Jared Freed]

I'd be doing nothing. I'd be I'd be on Fox News every night doing Gutfeld. That's what he thinks that all the big comedians are.

[Jordana Abraham]

That's very funny. All right, well, well, I'm excited for you.

[Jared Freed]

Still in shock. I'm still shaken by the news. Thank you. What is.

[Jordana Abraham]

You have to come up with some advice for, for high school junior, right.

[Jared Freed]

To edit, as per usual. My always advice, you write to edit, put it down, make it better.

[Jordana Abraham]

You know those celebrities that do the graduation speeches at the colleges?

[Jared Freed]

Yeah.

[Jordana Abraham]

Would you want to do that? Like, would that be like an I've made it moment?

[Jared Freed]

My friend Ronnie Chang just did one at Harvard and he went viral for it.

[Jordana Abraham]

Amazing.

[Jared Freed]

He did a great thing where he saw that everyone was like, hey, AI is the future.

[Jordana Abraham]

And everyone freaked out.

[Jared Freed]

You need to. AI. He's like, screw, AI. So he went the other direction. So he, you know, it's funny. Like these, these commencement speeches, some of them, they seem like they know there are going to be on social media very high. Like, they're highly aware. And some of them, you're like, are you aware?

[Jordana Abraham]

Right. Did you know how this was going to play?

[Jared Freed]

Right. Like, I, it's almost unbelievable. Like, some of those, the ones made

[Jordana Abraham]

me angry, the ones who were pro I.

[Jared Freed]

Because they were just like, shut up and take your fucking porridge. I Oliver TW well, it's just kind of like, like, it was very like me. It was like these people put money into an education that you're basically saying, like, it's too late. Speak at the freshman orientation if you're going to talk about AI.

[Jordana Abraham]

That's a good point.

[Jared Freed]

You know, like, what do you say? These people have made their beds in a certain way also.

[Jordana Abraham]

Yeah. The speech is supposed to be motivating, right?

[Jared Freed]

It should be motivating. Not like, hey, get back to the books and start learning how to code.

[Jordana Abraham]

Right?

[Jared Freed]

Like, that's up.

[Jordana Abraham]

Maybe, maybe Penn State will ask you to do their commencement speech.

[Jared Freed]

Penn State. And I, I don, I, I, I've always, I've, I've kind of been, I'm, I'm, I'm fine. I love my, my memories. I love being a part of Penn State. But I, I never really felt that connected. I feel connected. I don't know. I, I, I, I love the people I've met. I think good people, like, really fun. Like, my type of people go to Penn State.

[Caller/Guest (likely a parent or family member)]

Right.

[Jared Freed]

But I, you know, when I say, you know, the, I don't think that it prepares you for life.

[Caller/Guest (likely a parent or family member)]

Okay.

[Jordana Abraham]

Yeah, I don't think they're Gonna ask you to do the graduation speech now.

[Jared Freed]

Well, that would be my speech. You're not prepared for life. You've been in this bubble. You're three hours away from any major city where you could have an internship. You're not that great. Yeah, I had to learn.

[Jordana Abraham]

If you're on the board, what do

[Jared Freed]

you think of Cornell? Do you have a connection to Cornell?

[Jordana Abraham]

I mean, I. That's where we. We founded this company.

[Jared Freed]

So you have a very big connection to Cornell. Yeah, I mean, part of this story.

[Jordana Abraham]

But again, it wasn't like a Cornell affiliated blog.

[Caller/Guest (likely a parent or family member)]

No.

[Jordana Abraham]

Right.

[Jared Freed]

By any means. But also, you met people who were like minded, again, in the way that the people.

[Jordana Abraham]

Although I knew those people in high school.

[Jared Freed]

Okay, so I guess we can't give Cornell.

[Jordana Abraham]

I mean, like, I think it was a. It was a great school.

[Jared Freed]

So you're not Andy Bernard. You're not the nard Doug. Oh, from the office, who is a big Cornell.

[Jordana Abraham]

No, I mean, he's like, sort of like the. That's the joke, right? Yeah. Is that it's like, not Harvard. It is one of those schools where it's like, it's. It's good, but it's not Harvard.

[Jared Freed]

Well, that's.

[Jordana Abraham]

Well, so it's like everyone's.

[Jared Freed]

Everyone. There's always someone richer, there's always someone prettier. There's always someone, you know, that's better looking, whatever. But my envy of Cornell would be if someone sees it on a resume you've checked, like, that's the nice part. Like that.

[Caller/Guest (likely a parent or family member)]

Right.

[Jordana Abraham]

Like I said, a lot.

[Jared Freed]

Right? Anyone who believes that Penn State on a resume means something to someone, like, I would say you're delusional.

[Jordana Abraham]

Again, I wouldn't. Again, more for the speech, for the end, for the graduation.

[Jared Freed]

I'm just. I learned that through attrition. You. I remember.

[Jordana Abraham]

Was that something you thought of when applying to schools?

[Jared Freed]

No, that's the thing I never thought of, like, I just want to go to a big school where I could have fun. You know, the. The millennial, the classic. I'm going for the experience.

[Jordana Abraham]

Right?

[Jared Freed]

And that was something people talked about then more than I. I.

[Jordana Abraham]

Sports. Yeah, sports.

[Jared Freed]

The experience, the culture. And I remember graduating. I remember I was put on a meeting with someone who was in finance because I was like an econ major. And I'm like, you know, talk to them, you know, get some advice. Maybe they can get you an internship. And I remember this guy was like a Penn State grad, and he's like, I really don't. He's like, I'm more of a Duke grad school alumni than I am a.

[Jordana Abraham]

He said that?

[Jared Freed]

Yeah, he said that to me. I'll never forget it.

[Jordana Abraham]

And I was like, to the Penn State alum.

[Jared Freed]

He's a Penn State alum.

[Jordana Abraham]

To saying. It's saying it to you.

[Jared Freed]

To me.

[Jordana Abraham]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

But he went to Duke grad school, right. And he was basically telling me, like,

[Jordana Abraham]

don't tell anyone you went to Penn State.

[Jared Freed]

That's not what he tells people.

[Jordana Abraham]

Okay.

[Jared Freed]

And I was like, you know, it really hit me, like, there was so much post college stuff that hit me in a way that I, Like, I felt, like, very delusional.

[Jordana Abraham]

You didn't know?

[Jared Freed]

Yeah, I had no idea I felt

[Jordana Abraham]

that way going into college. Like, once I was in college, I was like, I didn't know all these things that I feel like you're supposed to know.

[Jared Freed]

Right. Yeah, I. And that is. Yeah. I mean, I. I've told it here. I didn't even know what the bursar was. I didn't. Everyone kept talking about signing up for the. Whatever that website is, the. Where you. You know, the portal where you get all your portal materials. I didn't know for the first semester what the portal was.

[Jordana Abraham]

Well, was your mom, like, doing a lot of your. For you in high school?

[Jared Freed]

Not really. Like, it would. Maybe not that stuff. School stuff. My parents were never really involved.

[Jordana Abraham]

Okay.

[Jared Freed]

They were always like. They just never were school people. Like, I. I always sell people.

[Jordana Abraham]

What does that even mean? They didn't care how you did in school.

[Jared Freed]

My. I'm the first generation to go to college or to graduate from college in my family.

[Jordana Abraham]

Really?

[Jared Freed]

Yeah. So, like, college wasn't really. Because people. I always say that we are salesman Jews, you know, like, there's like, Dr. Jew, there's tote bag Jew, there's your

[Jordana Abraham]

grandfather who went to sleepaway camp, didn't go to college.

[Jared Freed]

The grandparents didn't go to sleep.

[Caller/Guest (likely a parent or family member)]

Wake up.

[Jared Freed]

But they. My grand. Both my grandparents were in businesses. Like, my one side of my family, my d. Dad's dad was a butcher at one point in his life. So, like, butcher. You're not going to, you know, butcher you.

[Caller/Guest (likely a parent or family member)]

Right.

[Jared Freed]

You know, and my. On the other side of my family, my grandfather was in. He sold rags. He cleaned rags and did, you know, for the. Sold rags for the textiles.

[Jordana Abraham]

For the, like, fabric.

[Jared Freed]

Fabric. He would. That cleaned the cars in Detroit.

[Jordana Abraham]

Okay.

[Jared Freed]

So they were part of that industry.

[Jordana Abraham]

I didn't know that was a thing. Rags for to clean the cars.

[Jared Freed]

The sticky cloth.

[Jordana Abraham]

Do they still do that.

[Jared Freed]

I think. I think companies still do that.

[Jordana Abraham]

I would imagine they'd be automated now. There's still people.

[Jared Freed]

We have to make them. They have to. They would produce.

[Jordana Abraham]

Right.

[Jared Freed]

I think I'm giving a vague because I don't know much. Yeah, but they were, you know, my great grandparents were immigrants.

[Jordana Abraham]

From where?

[Jared Freed]

Both. So they came in through Canada to Windsor, like Detroit.

[Jordana Abraham]

They're immigrants from Canada. Where were they before Canada? Oh, through. Okay.

[Jared Freed]

Through winds. You know, like, my. My mom. My grandmother on my mom's side was Canadian.

[Jordana Abraham]

Okay.

[Jared Freed]

I think. I don't know much. I. I wish I knew more.

[Jordana Abraham]

You and Mike don't know anything.

[Jared Freed]

I don't think men know.

[Jordana Abraham]

Don't know a single thing about.

[Jared Freed]

Does your boyfriend know about his family?

[Jordana Abraham]

I don't understand. No one asks a question.

[Jared Freed]

Men don't. We don't want to look back. His sisters know everything. Right. That's a big thing. Ruthie with Harry was like, he doesn't know anything. Emily's asked me questions.

[Jordana Abraham]

Absolutely insane. I'm just like, how do you not know your own family history? I could tell you, like, about my mother's great grandfather.

[Jared Freed]

Really?

[Jordana Abraham]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

I have one. My. My dad's side of the family is a little bit more kind of known, but I don't, you know, still no one's.

[Jordana Abraham]

Yeah. I guess you don't have a sister to ask the important questions.

[Jared Freed]

And also my dad's side of the family. Not a lot of women. There were only. There was only two female cousins.

[Jordana Abraham]

How many cousins do you have?

[Jared Freed]

Nine. My dad has three cousins. Yeah. Three siblings. So, like, we didn't have, like. And it was mostly boys.

[Jordana Abraham]

What about your mom's side?

[Jared Freed]

One sibling, one boy, one cousin. Yeah.

[Jordana Abraham]

Oh, wow.

[Jared Freed]

So, yeah, it is.

[Jordana Abraham]

I'll have to ask your parents about the Freed family tree.

[Jared Freed]

They'll probably say something horrific within that conversation, but won't they all?

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[Jared Freed]

we talking about today?

[Jordana Abraham]

All right, we're gonna start with a petty or prudent. We love a petty or prudent.

[Jared Freed]

And if you're out there, I'm on the road. I'm gonna be in Portland, Maine. I got more dates coming. Jaredfree.com do me a favor. If you go to my account and you see I'm posting about dates, take a look. Go to my website. Just take a look. Jaredfree.com jaredfree.com I'm coming to Paramount. I want to sell that out. We gotta have a special. The special's coming.

[Jordana Abraham]

I'll be at the Paramount.

[Jared Freed]

Jordan will be there.

[Jordana Abraham]

Bring in a whole crew, Ronnie. I wish they don't let dogs in Paramount.

[Jared Freed]

Damn it. The special, though, if you can do this, I want you to put it on your queue. Watch it early. That's the only way it really helps.

[Jordana Abraham]

Watch it early or get the out of here.

[Jared Freed]

Why the first month? Yeah, that's all I have.

[Jordana Abraham]

A month to watch it.

[Jared Freed]

Okay, you get a month.

[Jordana Abraham]

All right. Fairly new listener here and love the podcast. You're helping me navigate dating and divorce, and I thank you. We'll get right to it. Jared mentioned before about those Facebook groups. Are we dating the same guy? So the Indianapolis group. I don't know her story and it's probably petty, but maybe this dude just really effed her over, so perhaps prudent. Lol. Every couple of weeks, someone posts in the Facebook group that they see flyers of a guy taped on light poles and such around downtown Indianapolis. It's been going on for months. The flyers change and have different pics of this woman's ex along with different quotes. Rumor has it he cheated on his girlfriend multiple times. And she's the one taping these flyers around the city. Her dedication is quite impressive. As I mentioned, a new flyer pops up every couple weeks posted all over downtown. Woman from dating apps. See these? And posts in the group asking questions. I'm sure it's petty, but I and tons of others think it's epic and savage. What are your thoughts? Post and an example of the flyers attached.

[Jared Freed]

We'll read the post. I match with quote kevin on hinge, but then saw all these flyers with his face on it downtown. Does anyone know what the story here is? And then someone else wrote, spotted today in downtown Indy at the corner of this and this. I don't know who he is. Wrong, but good for you, girl.

[Jordana Abraham]

And here's the quotes, so give us a picture of them. And quotes. Women who want me to open doors and pull out chairs are high maintenance. I only want a woman that's independent. Okay. I don't know if that deserves to be on a light post.

[Jared Freed]

I mean. Yeah, okay, it's a long quote.

[Jordana Abraham]

I will love bomb you like crazy the first few weeks, then get ready for the emotional roller coaster, ladies. Okay? And then the other one is you can take the trash out of the trailer, but it will still be trash. None of these are really saying anything that horrific to me.

[Jared Freed]

Well, horrific. I mean, all of it's horrific for him. Look at the perspective of.

[Caller/Guest (likely a parent or family member)]

No, but they don't.

[Jordana Abraham]

Right.

[Jared Freed]

But I'm saying for him, but for

[Jordana Abraham]

him, this is the actual, like, if I saw this quote about anyone, it's

[Jared Freed]

not sure, but shocking to me. Yeah, the quotes. Well, that's the problem. That's what makes it even more petty.

[Jordana Abraham]

That's what's worse. That's what I'm saying.

[Jared Freed]

You're being vague.

[Jordana Abraham]

It was like this man. Like, it's in the Sex in the City thing where it's like this man told me he loved me and then I caught him eating another woman's. Whatever.

[Jared Freed]

Vagina.

[Jordana Abraham]

Yes.

[Jared Freed]

Finger.

[Caller/Guest (likely a parent or family member)]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

Yeah. I. It's funny. What women. You know, it. This is women. I. I just think my first reaction when I read this email, and if you're looking to get like, a male perspective on, like, I'm not even going to get into the. Are we dating the same guy? Group. But, like, when she writes, I wouldn't be fun to tell this to.

[Jordana Abraham]

Right. I wouldn't. I don't think I would be either. Well, I. I think it's epic and savage.

[Jared Freed]

Epic. That's the line that got me because I'm like, it's funny that, like, I don't know a lot of men who would look at this and go, it's epic and savage because it's not really done creatively enough. Like, there's no whimsy to this. Well, there's no.

[Jordana Abraham]

Like, the crime doesn't. I don't know what the crime is.

[Jared Freed]

Well, the point. That's the point, though. That's what's so. That's what's so, like, scary to me.

[Caller/Guest (likely a parent or family member)]

Right.

[Jared Freed]

We don't know the crime, but he's guilty.

[Jordana Abraham]

That's the part that's upsetting to me too, though.

[Jared Freed]

Right. Okay, good.

[Jordana Abraham]

There's a crime at stake. Let's hear it.

[Jared Freed]

Well, that's the thing. If you're going to post their picture around town. And it was like, I think it, like, this is, like, badly done. Honestly. Like, I don't mean to be. Not fun, but, like, the quotes aren't horrific enough. Yeah, the. We don't know the facts, but we assume that there are facts so bad that he must be the villain when we don't really know if. If she had written. Here are the facts. Cheated on me and. And. And now is on dating apps. Watch out. That's more savage.

[Jordana Abraham]

So petty, but more. I. At least I would understand it.

[Jared Freed]

And the fact that you keep putting him up and. And no one in this group is on the side of, like.

[Jordana Abraham]

And you're putting his phone number up.

[Jared Freed]

That's up in putting his phone number up, his full name. And if you had, like, if you want to be the vigilante who takes down bad men for the good of women, you got to do it.

[Jordana Abraham]

I don't think this makes the person look like a vigilante. This makes this kind of seems like a woman who's crazy.

[Jared Freed]

Yeah. But she's being encouraged in this group, you know, savage and hilarious. Like, I don't know. If I had a friend who was like, yeah, every Thursday I go around Indianapolis and I post pictures of my ex, and I've been doing it for six months, I'd be like, are you okay?

[Jordana Abraham]

Yeah, I don't think there'd be another date.

[Jared Freed]

Well, but it was a friend, right? A friend. You'd go, this is how you're spending your time?

[Jordana Abraham]

Like, well, I would need to. I would need to know what happened.

[Jared Freed]

Right.

[Jordana Abraham]

It would have to be, like a very, very grave offense.

[Jared Freed]

He told me I was high maintenance because I like my chair being right like that.

[Jordana Abraham]

To me, then that person looks like a lun.

[Jared Freed]

I know, but it. But this is kind of the problem with the punch up, punch down nature of the Internet. And this is something I talked about on the book tour. And I talk about with Walking Red Flag, where, like, you know, my. My. My version of why someone should buy Walking Red Flag is you're getting a reasonable perspective from a straight guy and you're hearing from someone you might actually date. And I'm not saying I'm the catch of all catches. I'm just saying I'm not the person who would see this online and be so emotionally affected that I would punch back. When I see this as a normal guy with things to do and friends and family that I love, I roll my eyes and I move on. Anyone who tells me the story and thinks it's savage, I go, okay, cool. And I don't even debate them because they're not worth me debating.

[Jordana Abraham]

Right.

[Jared Freed]

Like, I think they're living in a very sad world. And it's like, when it comes to Internet dating, it's like women having fun like this, which I do agree there is fun and fantasy to this. But I'm saying, like, in general, putting up the posters, absolutely.

[Jordana Abraham]

Clever enough to be warranted.

[Jared Freed]

But if you heard it from, like, the perspective, like, they go around the city and put up some posters of Zacks. Okay, fine. I get the joke. I get what's going on. Like, you know, but the men who would be the women who do that are more normal and in the dating pool, the men who would be like, this is what's wrong with women today. Aren't even people you date.

[Caller/Guest (likely a parent or family member)]

Right.

[Jared Freed]

So the men are talking. You're so on the Internet on the. You know, if this was posted as an Instagram post, it would be fun. Women who are dateable talking to men who they'd never date. So it's like, that's my. Like, to me, you're now and then you're more miserable in the dating world. Like the, the net. The net of it is this woman seeing the comment section with a bunch of men talking about, this is why women stay single their whole lives. Like, and a bunch of men who agree with the pulling out the chair thing or whatever it is, you know, like, whatever horrifics that they would agree with. Like, I don't relate to those men. And also, if I met a woman who was doing this, I wouldn't relate to her or thought it was funny. Like, I'd be like, I guess we're just two different people.

[Jordana Abraham]

Right?

[Jared Freed]

So I don't know. I. I think things like this, while I kind of get the. The scratching a scab of it, I. I think you're setting.

[Jordana Abraham]

I just don't think it's that entertaining.

[Jared Freed]

Not to me. But I mean, you're the odd. They're. You're who they're serving. Like, they think that you would find it hilarious and savage.

[Jordana Abraham]

No, I find it like, sad. I find it sad for like the person doing it. Yeah, that person seems like in need of help.

[Jared Freed]

I find it sad for the people who are like, married in the group who like, get off to this. When I was posted in the Are we dating the same guy group, I was like, I. I got messages from like women in their. In the. And their pictures with them with their husband and their kids. And I'm like, why are you messaging me?

[Jordana Abraham]

Right? Why are they still in there?

[Jared Freed]

Why are you in there?

[Caller/Guest (likely a parent or family member)]

Right.

[Jared Freed]

Is this what you do? Honestly?

[Jordana Abraham]

Yeah. If you're gonna be in there, just lurk and be entertained, right?

[Jared Freed]

You're gonna message the guy.

[Jordana Abraham]

I used to be in the batches brides group before I was. Which is like, yeah, I'm gonna lurk, but I'm not.

[Jared Freed]

So was I. It was a great watch.

[Jordana Abraham]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

But I also in the Betch's brides

[Jordana Abraham]

weren't messaging people who were fighting in the comments.

[Jared Freed]

No, no. But I. I don't know why that felt different than. Because it was like we're just talking about wedding shit and seeing people actually argue face to face.

[Jordana Abraham]

Right. Instead of like sort of victimizing someone on and then everyone kind of ganging up against them.

[Jared Freed]

And I think the person who's posting this and being like, hey guys, look. Look what another one's up. I don't think she's better off in dating. No, I don't think she's doing better. Like, I saw a thing the other day. You should only go check the news once a day. Like, that's the only nor, you know, checking the news more than once a day is like, bad for your Is bad for your health. Like, I kind of believe that.

[Jordana Abraham]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

Like, this is again, we can only take so much, you know? I don't know. This episode is brought to you by Built. Our lives are all busy and not every month looks the same. But there is one thing you can count on. Every month that rent or mortgage payment is due. And it's a lot. But now with Bill, you can make that big monthly expense work for you. Bill is the membership for you where you live that rewards you with points on every housing payment wherever you live. BILT lets members redeem rewards towards future housing payments, flights, hotels, and even select fitness classes. So every time I pay my rent, I'm earning points towards my next Barry's class. Join the membership for where you live at. Join built.comUUP that's J O I N B L T.comU make sure to use our URL so they know we sent you.

[Jordana Abraham]

Let's do another email.

[Jared Freed]

Let's do another one. Jordana and Jared love the show so much. Since you guys talk a lot about the absolute panic of texting an ex or having a secret crush. I stumbled upon this wild website the other day and immediately thought of the podcast. It's called When We Match and it's basically an anonymous matching thing. From what I understand, you secretly put your ex's or crush's name in. No alerts or creepy emails are sent to them at all. But if they independently go to the site and happen to put your name in too, it's a match and a chat opens. If they never sign up, your secret is safe forever. I feel like this would be a hilarious debate topic for an episode. Is this a genuine safety net for romantics or is this just enabling? People who refuse to move on and need to let go would love to hear your take on it. So I guess the premise of this is you put a name in this website and then if the love of

[Jordana Abraham]

your life is thinking of you too, they put yours in and now you

[Jared Freed]

get A lord get a message. Yes, you're told. And I guess for an ex, it would be like. I mean, it would be like if

[Jordana Abraham]

both people were, like, too scared to, like, get back in contact.

[Jared Freed]

Right? This would be.

[Jordana Abraham]

But what a way to make it a little bit more like an entry or easier entry away.

[Jared Freed]

Right? It is a. I would say a 20, 26 version of missed Connections a

[Jordana Abraham]

little bit, but it kind of sounds like, you know, the person, or I guess here it's like your crush, I assume you have to have some information about them.

[Jared Freed]

Right.

[Caller/Guest (likely a parent or family member)]

But they.

[Jared Freed]

And then they would have to actually think of this website.

[Jordana Abraham]

Yeah, they would have. This website has to get big enough for them to know that it's a thing. Here's the thing. I kind of like it. Like, I was thinking about it, I was like, you know, it has, like, positives and negatives. I think the negative is, like, it discourages people from, like, taking a chance and being vulnerable and making a movie when you could be rejected. But the positive is. I do think there's sometimes people who are just like, I really have no idea how the other person would feel about this, and I don't want to be yelled at. And that kind of stops you from taking a chance on something. And so I do. I think there's something kind of cool about it.

[Jared Freed]

If I was to give it a note. As someone who was reached out to by an ex who is now with that person, from my perspective, like, we get. And as someone with a dating podcast where we hear from people who are looking for us to tell them whether they should reach out, they should reach out, or it could happen again. I don't like the element of, like, a month later, you put your ex's information in there just so it's there. So, you know. You know, like, let's just say you break up and you just put their name in there right away. So it's just waiting for that person.

[Jordana Abraham]

And then when they.

[Jared Freed]

And then if they.

[Jordana Abraham]

Well, you might feel differently. By the time they.

[Jared Freed]

Right.

[Jordana Abraham]

By the time they see it, you might be like, oh, that was like, that was just a lonely moment.

[Jared Freed]

But that's actually maybe why it's good, because now when you put it that way, like, it gives you an action

[Jordana Abraham]

to take in a lonely moment that you don't have to. Like, they could make someone make it someone else's problem.

[Caller/Guest (likely a parent or family member)]

Right. You.

[Jared Freed]

You actually. You're going, it's there if I. If it happens, and now I can move on.

[Jordana Abraham]

Right. You know what? It would be an extra but if

[Jared Freed]

both people did that, that'd be a problem too. But go ahead. I'm sorry.

[Jordana Abraham]

The extra feature of it could also be like, I put their name in and then like, you check one of a few boxes. Like, was just thinking of this person and don't necessarily want anything done. Was thinking about this person and would like to explore, you know, the reason. Like, explore something.

[Jared Freed]

Right.

[Jordana Abraham]

And then like, desperately want you back as the third option.

[Jared Freed]

Right. Listen, I, I, I think it would work better or be more honest if a year had to go by since you last spoke in order for you,

[Jordana Abraham]

like, for you to be allowed to

[Jared Freed]

do this, to allow to do this. You can't have any contact for a year. Then you can put their name in.

[Jordana Abraham]

Does that include Instagram likes, everything? Okay. No. Absolutely no interactions.

[Jared Freed]

Right. Because listen, I'm using my own experience to inform how I would think of this, but I really did put a lot of, it did take a lot of work to not message Emily over the years.

[Jordana Abraham]

I know, I remember.

[Jared Freed]

And I've said this to you and I, and I did take it seriously. So I don't. If this allows you to not take that seriously, then I don't think you're, I like that, you know, like a

[Jordana Abraham]

nice element to it.

[Jared Freed]

I, I, and it wasn't even.

[Jordana Abraham]

Would you have used this?

[Jared Freed]

Maybe I'm not that, like, message in a bottle type where I think this,

[Jordana Abraham]

let's say this was pop. This was like, very common, very popular, like, as common as a dating app.

[Jared Freed]

Probably not.

[Jordana Abraham]

You wouldn't do it.

[Jared Freed]

You know why? I don't, I don't. I, I, honestly, when I think back to, like, Emily messaging me, like, I don't know if I had the confidence to get over, like, feeling like I was ruining, like, someone's life by in that life. But, you know, like, I, I didn't want to, like, I didn't know if I had the confidence to, like, be, to like, to like, take the chance to see how I felt.

[Jordana Abraham]

Right.

[Jared Freed]

You know, like, I didn't, I don't know if I had.

[Jordana Abraham]

You didn't know what the outcome.

[Jared Freed]

I didn't know how I would feel.

[Jordana Abraham]

Right.

[Jared Freed]

So I was so afraid of how I would feel that it was hard.

[Jordana Abraham]

Right. And if you were sure about how you would feel, you probably would have just reached out.

[Jared Freed]

Right?

[Caller/Guest (likely a parent or family member)]

Right.

[Jared Freed]

If I was sure that I was like, gonna be so happy and let's run away together, like, I would have

[Jordana Abraham]

done it earlier, then you would have done it it.

[Caller/Guest (likely a parent or family member)]

Right.

[Jordana Abraham]

So I guess it's like if you could have done that, then you don't even need this.

[Jared Freed]

Right. So, So I get.

[Jordana Abraham]

That's what I'm saying is the negative is that, like, it takes away this idea of, like, someone has, like, something to lose in coming.

[Jared Freed]

Right.

[Jordana Abraham]

Coming back.

[Jared Freed]

I'm with you. That's. That's the negative. It's me. You're making something that shouldn't be easy. Easier.

[Jordana Abraham]

Like, like dating apps.

[Jared Freed]

Dating apps.

[Caller/Guest (likely a parent or family member)]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

Love shouldn't be easy.

[Jordana Abraham]

Right.

[Jared Freed]

You've made it.

[Jordana Abraham]

Coming back after a relationship ends.

[Jared Freed]

I kind of like it more for a crush. Crush. I like it.

[Jordana Abraham]

Yeah. I think that's kind of fun. But again, shouldn't you just go up to your crush and approach them and

[Jared Freed]

say, shouldn't I, you know, stop, you know, eating all the fries after? I'm not hungry anymore. You know, Like, I, no, I, I, I.

[Jordana Abraham]

Well, now there's something you can take to not do that.

[Caller/Guest (likely a parent or family member)]

Right.

[Jared Freed]

I got in a fight about Ozempic last night.

[Jordana Abraham]

With who?

[Jared Freed]

At the Cellar. With a comedian.

[Jordana Abraham]

They were mad at you.

[Jared Freed]

No, they were like, I think it's like, you should just have. Not a fight, but we were discussing.

[Jordana Abraham]

Just have a salad.

[Jared Freed]

Yeah. Just have willpower.

[Jordana Abraham]

Are they thin?

[Jared Freed]

Yeah.

[Jordana Abraham]

Okay.

[Jared Freed]

And I go, would you say that to someone with add? And they go, that's different. And I go, I can't believe you don't see.

[Caller/Guest (likely a parent or family member)]

Right.

[Jared Freed]

The ADD version of what I'm saying. You know, we got into it a little bit. This happens to the seller a lot.

[Jordana Abraham]

The seller is, why don't you. Would you say that to someone with depression?

[Jared Freed]

Right. I, I, I don't. I would never, you know, like, I, this is why I love going. This is why I love. Right. Just don't. Just try harder.

[Jordana Abraham]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

Just don't be. And I said, what about drugs? What about an addiction to drugs? He goes, well, I don't think that that's willpower, too. And I was like, it's why I love the seller. Like, you're sitting at a table with people that maybe you'd never sit with because that. At the Olive Tree, there's a table of all the comedians.

[Jordana Abraham]

So it's like Beni Hana.

[Jared Freed]

It's a total Benihana sit at the table.

[Jordana Abraham]

People do not see it.

[Jared Freed]

Except, yeah, everyone loves Benihana. Everyone loves Benihana. Everyone loves doing comedy at that table.

[Jordana Abraham]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

And people really get into it. I've seen, like, fights. I've seen. Who did I see getting a fight? I've seen a few, like, famous people.

[Jordana Abraham]

Really?

[Caller/Guest (likely a parent or family member)]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

Like, that's fun.

[Jordana Abraham]

Record them next time.

[Jared Freed]

I should. There was one time that I watched. I. I don't know if I should say this, or maybe I. I watched Jon Stewart, like, stand up to a guy.

[Jordana Abraham]

Oh. And I was short, right?

[Jared Freed]

Shorter. But he was. He was also a bouncer. He was a bartender. And about. He worked in, like, bars.

[Caller/Guest (likely a parent or family member)]

What?

[Jared Freed]

Yeah. And I was like, this guy's the man. Like, he really took ownership of how he felt. And you're like. You would think as a famous person, you just, like, let it go. You don't need to.

[Caller/Guest (likely a parent or family member)]

It. Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

No, he was like. He stood up. He stood up to someone. I. I always respected him for it.

[Jordana Abraham]

Good for you. Jon Stewart.

[Jared Freed]

Yeah. I'm a huge John Stewart fan. I mean, I've opened for him.

[Jordana Abraham]

I remember. All right, well, we did.

[Jared Freed]

It's our episode.

[Jordana Abraham]

We solved dating. We'll be back on Wednesday, next week.

[Jared Freed]

Boom.

[Jordana Abraham]

Bye, Batches.