Is Using ChatGPT For Relationship Advice A Red Flag?

Summary

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U Up? — "Is Using ChatGPT For Relationship Advice A Red Flag?"

Hosts: Jordana Abraham & Jared Freid

Date: June 26, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into the modern dating dilemma: is turning to AI (specifically ChatGPT) for relationship advice a red flag? Jordana and Jared unpack listener stories about discovering partners using ChatGPT to work through relationship doubts, and debate whether using AI for emotional support is problematic, relatable, or simply a new facet of contemporary dating. They also tackle their popular "Icky or Picky" listener dilemma segment, exploring boundaries in sharing passions and when oversharing becomes off-putting.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Personal Updates, Banter, and Setting the Tone (00:32–10:18)

• Hosts catch up over their personal lives, family quirks, and stand-up careers.
  • Jared discusses how quickly his parents push him to move on from accomplishments:

    “When I got a book deal within a month, [my dad] was like, ‘When is the book coming out?’ … My parents are right, but they don't understand that, like, maybe I don't need to hear this.” (01:53)

• They riff on awkward fan & family moments, self-deprecation, and generational humor.
• Quick aside on the highs and lows of performing, criticism vs. apathy, and the value of feedback.
  • Notable quote:

    “Ten negative comments are better than no comments—because no one cares.” – Jordana (06:58)

• They share Adam Carolla’s advice:

  “You either got to be on the beach or out in the water to survive. You will die living in the middle.” – Jared paraphrasing Carolla (08:48)
  They relate this to how extreme takes and polarized views dominate the online world, contrasting it with their aim for moderateness.

2. Icky or Picky Segment: The Bible Verse Date (14:07–21:52)

• Listener dilemma: Is it an "ick" (dealbreaker) or just being "picky" if a date reads a Bible verse at a bar?
  • Email from a listener who matched with a Christian guy. He writes "Phil" on his hand, references Philippians from the Bible, and reads her a favorite verse at the bar. This weirds her out, despite initial chemistry.
• Discussion Highlights:
  • Jared and Jordana stumble over New Testament pronunciation (“Philippians”), building rapport with self-aware Jewish humor.
  • Both argue reading a meaningful quote—religious or not—can be thoughtful, not necessarily a red flag:

    “If it was a business book or something he was passionate about, we’d just call him deep or thoughtful.” – Jared (19:21)

  • Jordana says:

    “He was probably like, oh, she's curious. Let me… here’s a good opportunity to share something I'm passionate about.” (19:05)

  • They agree it’s only a red flag if it signals a deeper incompatibility in values, not because of the act itself. Prompted by a genuine question, sharing passions—even religious ones—shows vulnerability.

    “To take away meaning in words, that’s someone who’s revising, inspiring themselves… I like it.” – Jared (21:12)

• Bottom Line: The act was more “picky” than “icky.” It’s about compatibility, not rudeness.

3. Main Segment: Is Using ChatGPT for Relationship Issues a Red Flag? (22:56–32:46)

• Listener submission: A woman discovers her boyfriend has an ongoing ChatGPT conversation titled "Relationship Issues and Uncertainty," where he seeks advice on their compatibility, expresses doubts about her (e.g., her cats, how long she takes to get ready), and ChatGPT suggests considering breaking up. She leaves him while he sleeps, later questioning if she overreacted—and if using AI as a “therapist” is grounds to end a relationship.
• Core Discussion:
  • The hosts note the intensely modern context, with Jared labeling it:

    “A very 2026 question—it’s a movie.” (25:36)

  • Jordana points out the irony:

    “It’s funny that she’s saying that [using ChatGPT is bad] while writing into a podcast.” (26:04)

  • Both frame using ChatGPT this way as just another outlet “like a friend you don’t have to deal with the next day” (Jordana, 26:43), not inherently suspicious or ‘outsourcing’ of emotions.
  • They role-play how ChatGPT might have prompted the boyfriend to spill more than he would to a human, suggesting the AI just drew out internal anxieties he hadn’t vocalized:

    “What if these are the questions and answers she would have gotten if he was just injected with truth serum?” – Jared (29:15)

  • The key issue is exposure to “unfiltered doubts.” Jared draws a parallel to reading someone’s diary:

    “All he’s doing is saying how he feels in the most... privately. Now you’re hearing it, and it’s like, you ended it. I don’t think she got the full discussion.” (29:57)

  • They both stress this revelation, while painful, could lead to deeper honesty and growth if addressed constructively:

    “They need to work through what she saw and ask about it... come at it from a place of wanting to learn more and not, like, extreme anger.” – Jordana (31:34)

• Conclusion:
  • Reading these doubts out of context is shocking, but it doesn’t need to mean immediate split—unfiltered doubts exist in every relationship, whether AI-written, or confessed to friends.
  • Salvageable if approached maturely; “This could be really good for your relationship, right? If it’s done correctly. Anything... if you actually work through the things that you saw and he gets a chance to say them.” – Jordana (32:28)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On negative feedback & growth:

  “Ten negative comments are better than no comments because no one cares… you’ll just disappear.” – Jordana (06:58)

• On showing passions early in dating:

  “If it was a business book or something he was passionate about, we’d just call him deep or thoughtful.” – Jared (19:21)

• On ChatGPT and emotional outsourcing:

  “It feels like it could be your therapist.” – Jordana (26:43) “What she found is like reading his diary… all he’s doing is saying how he feels in the most privately.” – Jared (29:58)

• On dealing with relationship doubts:

  “You’re compared against a ghost… it’s really not fair. So I think, yeah, she jumped the gun a little bit.” – Jared (32:21) “This could be really good for your relationship, right? If it’s done correctly.” – Jordana (32:46)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Personal Banter & Parental Pressure: 00:32–10:18
• Icky or Picky: Bible Verse at the Bar: 14:07–21:52
• Main Segment: ChatGPT for Relationship Doubts: 22:56–32:46

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Episode Tone & Style

• Warm, funny, and candid.
• Both hosts balance each other with self-deprecation and empathy.
• Willingness to address modern dating scenarios in nuanced, non-judgmental ways.
• Consistently moderate and “real” takes, encouraging listeners to seek honest communication rather than knee-jerk reactions.

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Takeaways

• Using ChatGPT (or any outlet) to process feelings isn’t inherently a red flag—honest conversation is what makes or breaks relationships.
• Sharing meaningful interests is attractive if done with context and self-awareness.
• Modern dating will keep presenting new dilemmas—how we communicate about them matters more than the technology we use.

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Transcript

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Hello and welcome back to the U UP podcast. I'm Jordana Abraham.

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And I am Jared Freed. How are you, Jordana? What's going on?

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I am.

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How you feeling on a Friday?

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I'm feeling great. It is beautiful here.

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Gorgina.

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Yes. Unfortunately is a weekday as all as

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it has been, but it is a weekday.

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Yes. How are you doing?

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I'm doing fine. I Fine.

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Okay.

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Is coming out. We're taping ahead of time. We are here.

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It's been out for a bit.

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Book has been out. So if you have a friend who will enjoy the book that you may have finished reading if you had a fun time reading it, you know, the goal was for you to laugh every page. To me, that's quite a gift to give to someone. Oh, you want to laugh every page of a book. So. But we got to move on. At a certain point, I got to move on. This is how I handle things. It's over, it's done. You're getting the real.

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You're getting a reality.

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I'm growing into my parents. Like, this is what my dad said. It's over. You're done. Move on. What's next? What's next?

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Stop trying.

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My parents will literally I'll be at dinner. I'm like, I wish there was a camera crew here because we will be sitting at dinner. My dad would go, next. Next thing.

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So it's like, I love it. So it's like MTV's Next. But with you and whatever you're working

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on, things going on in my life, life goals. Next. Next. We know. Book Next. We did it.

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Yes. My dad, no one cares about the book anymore.

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When I got a book deal within a month, he was like, when is the book coming up? And I'm like, how do you have. It gets written like I, I He's like, it's not War and Peace. What are we doing? Like, nothing. Reading it is. Yeah. To me it is like they're like, sometimes I sit at dinner with them and I'm like, no one would even believe this. They have a friend. Did I tell you the story already? I'm mixing my stories. I went to sushi night. Did I Tell you about this at the country club. At the country club.

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Okay.

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This guy Ira.

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Sorry, I didn't mean to sit.

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I mean, you can say whatever you want to say. Listen, I'm not gonna hide my life. I'm. Listen, I'll tell you what I do for work, and I'll give you dating advice.

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Double whammy.

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It's crazy. I'm wild like that.

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So you're at dinner at the country club.

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I'm at the country club. This guy Ira, who's a huge fan. Like, him and his wife, they're like, really? They're so nice. Huge fan of you, me, everything. Like, they are just. He comes up to me. He stands this far from my face. I could. I could have licked his nose, literally. But it's so uncomfortable. And you can't back up because he

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was at a concert.

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He literally. He goes, jared, you look great. You look unbelievable. I go, thank you. He goes, don't gain it back. Just don't gain it back. You'll make no money. And I'm like, you'll make no money. That. And I go. And I have to. This is the thing you have to, like, endure. Like, you can't. V. Just reacted as if he said a racial slur at me. Like. And it's like, to me, I have to have so much empathy because he's saying it. He doesn't. There's no hate in that. You know, on a broader scale, like, you know, we are kind of, like, raised now with the Internet to be, like. We have to think of, like, the 30 people who would see that comment. It's just him and I. He's just looking at me going. He cares so much about me doing well. He loves me.

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Why don't you think that way about people who slide into your DMs, though? That kind of. If someone. If someone slid into your DMs with that comment, you would block them immediately.

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Because we don't know each other. I don't know where they're coming from. I don't know their vibe. He is literally, like, cheering for me while. And this is a version of cheering for me. In his worldview, gaining it back is me not doing well.

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I actually think. I respect it because he said it to your face. He meant when most people would not.

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Right? And he doesn't. That's. But he.

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Most commenters. Most commenters would never come up to you and say the weird.

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They say, well, that's another thing my parents say to me. My dad. I got an email once from A guy who was at my show. And I'll never forget it. It was. I did a show. It was through my website, and it's. This is how my parents haunt me. Because they. My parents are right, but they don't understand that, like, maybe I don't need to hear this because the guy was at my show. I'll never forget it. There were guys in the front, and they were heckling, and I kind of, like, went into fight or flight mode. When you're on stage, all I care about is making the show good and getting people to laugh. So I started making fun of these guys who were heckling me, and then I felt like I had to go into old material to, like, keep the. Keep the. You know, my strategy at that point, you know, you become like a. Like a. You're. You're like a pilot who has to make decisions, save this thing. So I'm like, I'll do old material to, like, keep the ball in the air, and then maybe I'll go to new material, but let me do something comfortable so that, like, I have the muscle memory. Sometimes when you've said the words enough, you have the muscle memory that I can think of other things while I'm doing the jokes.

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Sure.

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I can't do that with new jokes. I got to be thinking of the words while I say them. So with an old joke, I can kind of go into it.

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Okay.

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And the show went great. I. I survived, so to speak. I got out of that show. I was like, man, you did old material, which you didn't want to do, but you had a good show. People laughed that week. I get back, and there was a message in my inbox. Hey, I was at the show, and I'm, like, a huge fan, and I'm really disappointed that he did old material. And I remember being like, well, that sucks. And I told my dad, I was, like, so mad. I was like, can you believe, you know, this guy? Old material? Who even remembers my material? My dad's like, that's the guy who thought enough. Cared enough to write to you. He goes, half that room might have been like, I guess we'll never come back to him again.

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I'm like, why? Your old stuff's good.

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Well, it's like, a horrific thing to hear, right? You know, because I'm like. And that kind of keeps me writing new material. That keeps me doing. I think about that email every. And that conversation with my dad. If you're listening every day.

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And you wrote the email.

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You affected me.

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Yeah.

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And my dad Affected me because then my dad was like, keep that in mind. You know, the people who are mad at you, there's a bunch of people who cared so little about you that they just walked away.

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Right. Well, I used to say that in the beginning of batches, a comment 10 negative comments are better than no comments because no one cares.

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You'll just disappear.

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Yeah.

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I went on Adam Corolla show. Adam Corolla, who I used to listen to his podcast all the time in the beginning. He's one of the original people doing a big podcast. He went very right wing. That in a way that I, I was like, this doesn't resemble what I'm looking to talk about or looking to listen to. And I went on his show after. So I was a big fan and he kept every discussion we had on his show. And you can probably go find this episode. It was when I was promoting the special and every conversation went into this politics, even non politic. We did have a whole conversation about filling up. I like a lot of ice in my coffee. So I asked for extra ice. And he's like, that's crazy. He goes, you want so much ice that they can't even put the top on. And I was like, why does it always have to be extreme? Why can't it be enough ice that fills the cup and I can still put a top on it?

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I agree. I like extra ice also. So.

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Yeah, but also light, light ice is a cheap person move. They want more coffee.

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Oh, well, I have the cheapest person move.

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What's yours?

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Two cups, medium coffee, large cup, extra ice.

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So you're thinking, they can't measure this. That is the cheapest.

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Because I do want. I do want. I don't. I do want extra ice, but I also don't want no coffee.

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The cheapest.

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I am the cheapest person.

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That is the cheapest person move. That is a show of cheapness. Because large cup, small. Small coffee, large cup. That's my dad's move. He does the cheapest person.

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Your dad and I are birds of a feather.

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Yeah. You have a lot in common. So this is all to say I remember but something I did take away from Adam Corolla. He said, you either live on the beach or die in the breakwater. You either swim in the ocean, live on the beach or you die in the breakwater.

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Okay.

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He was like, you either got to be on the beach or out in the water to survive. You will die living in the middle. I don't like that. That's not my. And, and if you live.

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It's pretty true of the online world today.

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Right? And that's. And that told me everything about him. That told me that maybe his opinions that he's giving on his podcast are a performance, you know, because he has this group that he needs to, like, keep getting cash from. I don't mean to make an accusation. I'm just saying, like, that's kind of how it felt here. We live in a. You know, we. I like to think this is a moderate show about a moderate take on dating.

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I think we're both fairly moderate.

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If you want a thoughtful take on life, come to my shows. I'm in.

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Yeah, I'll be there next weekend.

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That's the zip code. There's no zip code. It's just poor. Yeah. Not as bad as Hampton Bay's, but it's close.

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Hampton Bayes is the ultimate switcheroo.

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Yeah. That's not the.

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If you're dating someone who says they have a Hampton's house and it's in Hampton Bays, you've been got.

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Yes.

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Yeah. And then I'm gonna be in. Where else the am I gonna. Miami, Red Bank, New Jersey. All over this great country, Long Island. I'll be at the Paramount Theater. I hope that sounds.

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Will I. I will be there.

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There will be a new special coming out in the fall. What are we talking? You got any over sharing? Jordana? Anything else?

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Oh, I don't like. It's like asking someone if they have hobbies. I've got nothing. I have nothing.

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You've got me coming to the house.

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Yeah. So I got you. That's gonna be. That's gonna be a big part of my side.

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I bring a lot of luggage.

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Yeah. Great.

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Yeah.

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There's room for it.

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I'm not gonna mention it. Okay.

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Thank you.

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Love an icky or picky.

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You're dating someone, you get the ick. Are you just being picky?

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That's a different thing.

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I have an icky or picky that I want to get your opinion on. A little backstory. I'm a female in my mid-30s who matched with a guy on Hinge. Same age. His profile said he was Christian, but many profiles do, so I didn't think twice about it. I'm not particularly religious and I'm pretty liberal in my views, but I respect that others have different thoughts and ideas surrounding religion. It's just not something I choose to partake in and don't plan to. I can, however, see a world where I meet someone with differing religious beliefs and is a great match. So I'm not closed off immediately when I see that on a profile. We went on a few dates and things were going pretty great from the start. Great chemistry, super funny banter. Honestly, he was everything you could ask for in the eyes of a budding relationship. Until one night that changed it all for me. We walked to a restaurant in town to grab a bite to eat and we were sitting at the bar when I looked at his hand and on it was scribbled Phil. I pointed to his hand and said, who's Phil? And he proceeded to pull out his phone, open a Bible app. Didn't know these existed before this. Scroll to. How do you say this? Phil? Philippians.

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Philippians.

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Is that how you say it?

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Fallopian. Fallopian.

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Is it like philistine? Isn't it philistine?

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It's like Fallopian. Like the tube.

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I don't think so. I thought it's like Philistines or something.

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I thought it was Philistines. Philippines. Philippians.

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Philippians. That doesn't sound right.

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This is. Someone is really.

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I have to Google it.

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Stupid idiots right now.

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Are you sure?

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Philippians.

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Oh, Philippians is a thing.

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Philippians. Great.

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Philippians. Is that how you say it? Philippians is a New Testament letter written by the Apostle Paul to the church in Philip.

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I think it's fa. It's a good soup.

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Fa. Oh, you were right.

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Yeah.

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Oh, I kept saying you wrong.

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I've been with you the whole time.

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Oh, you knew it the whole time.

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No, I didn't know. I just. I've been trying to make fun of this the whole time. Yeah.

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Yeah. Okay, well, scroll to Philippi. Philop. Philip, I'm Jewish. I don't know any of the New Testament. And then read.

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Respect your religion, though. Thank you.

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Yes. And then read me a verse that he had apparently taken a liking to while eating his Bible. While eating. While reading his Bible that morning. Sorry. And then read me a verse that he had apparently taken a liking to while reading his Bible that morning. It immediately gave me the ick and I felt the need to even look around me to make sure nobody in the bar knew what was happening to me. This felt very much like a wrong time, wrong place kind of thing. All in all, we didn't work out for that reason and some other life differences. But this really felt like a lack of self awareness on his end. I asked a few of my friends who do believe in God and occasionally attend church about the situation and they agreed that there's a time and place for that stuff. And it's not while you're at a dive bar ordering a chicken salad sandwich. So I.

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Part of the chicken. I was thinking, sounds like my type of place. That's got to be good. If it's at a dive bar, you think I'm just a man.

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It'd be a risk total.

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But that's the thing about it. Like, who would trust the chicken salad sandwich at a dive bar? So it must be something they do.

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It's one of those. I agree. I think it's either amazing or horrible. Right, One of the two.

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But if it was horrible, you would get, like, a reputation. Like the dive bar. Like, it has to be good. I have to try this chicken salad. I love that we're more interested in the chicken salad than this guy. Seriously, Bible thumper.

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I mean, let us know if the chicken salad was. Sandwich was good.

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Send in where it was. It has to be a major city because she's at the table. Talk about big city versus small town. Being embarrassed that someone would be reading the Bible is like such a. But I'm in New York. I hope no one thinks anything of me. You know, like, in a small town, it's like the other way.

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Yeah. You're embarrassed if someone doesn't know what you're talking about. Anyway, so icky or picky, your date reads you a Bible verse at the bar. Sincerely not so blessed and a little stressed.

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This is so interesting. I. I love this email because again, as we talk about being a moderate take. I don't find this that crazy.

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I find it fine.

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I kind of find it very thoughtful.

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I think it's nice.

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Honestly, like, if it was. Let's take away the Bible.

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Showing you his. He's sharing his passions. Right.

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He's passionate about this. He's.

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He. And also, like, felt inspired by something.

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That's the point that I'm kind of sitting on. If you were, I guess what you wouldn't do if he hadn't.

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If he took out an actual Bible. Yeah, maybe that might be different. If he opened his backpack and took out a Bible and was like.

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And if this wasn't. This was like a fourth, third date. Like, they. She goes, I've all the qualities I would want in a guy. We've had these great dates, and this is the first time he felt maybe comfortable. But I guess you saw the writing on his hand. But maybe she asked about it.

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He was probably like, oh, she's curious. Let me, let me. Here's a good opportunity for me to share something I'm passionate about.

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Totally. And listen, the idea, like, if it wasn't the Bible and there was like, a really good line in a book, a business book, let's say it was a business book.

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Right.

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And he found a lot of, like, inspiration in this quote that would get him to, like, think about his work and his business in a different way. And then Reddit thought you might be interested. And. And he had on his arm. I don't know if he would write

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it on his hand.

[A]

Oh, Gary V. Let me read Gary Vee 330. Yeah, I, I, But I don't know if you would write it on yourself. But I've written down things in my notebook. Like I have a note too.

[B]

Almost like if you have a tattoo, that's almost like a more extreme version of that.

[A]

It's more extreme, but I, I guess the tet. The difference is like yeah, I don't, I, But I have a notebook in my pocket. If someone was like if my notebook fell out of my pocket, which good. And it opened and you saw like, you know, duty written in it.

[B]

Oh, why does it say say duty on your.

[A]

Well, I really thought the word duty would be funny to use in a joke and I just wrote it down and then it kind of looks funny when you write it down. So I thought maybe it'll be like a part of my life in the future. Like, yeah, that's a little weird.

[B]

But I would feel like that conversation would get me to get to know you on a different level than the small talk of regular whatever. Like she, she's getting to know. Maybe she doesn't like it, maybe it's not for her, but I don't think it's a red flag in itself.

[A]

No. And the idea that it's rude. You asked him what you know, like for icky rather.

[B]

Right.

[A]

I think you're being picky.

[B]

I agree. And those people I think are telling you that because you're already kind of bringing them an opinion and they're just kind of agreeing with you.

[A]

Right. I cuz the idea that you ask people with religious backgrounds, like I, I don't even know he has an app

[B]

for something that he cares about and

[A]

you asked about it. What's written on your hand? Oh, you know, I took a lot of inspiration.

[B]

I took it like, can't just start preaching to you as soon as you

[A]

sat down and, and to take away meaning in words like that's kind of a thoughtful person. Like, that's someone who's like revising, thinking, inspiring himself. I don't know. Yeah, I like it. I like it too.

[B]

If, I mean I'm not, I don't know if I would be in like, I, I would share the passion for that religion maybe. But I think I would like the idea of someone getting a little deeper with me through a question I've asked.

[A]

Totally. And, and generally like, listen, I don't think this is, I don't want to date a Christian person. And then I ended up on a date with someone with the Bible. You saw they were Christian. They are obviously more religious than you

[B]

and maybe you're not interested in that.

[A]

That's okay. I I think this can work this way. I don't think it's like a lie.

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[B]

Did you dirty.

[A]

What a.

[B]

That she's trying to take your man.

[A]

It's like her I left that night. Ah, she wants him, right? Chat GPT is trying to get with your boyfriend. Chat GPT basically advised him to end the relationship.

[B]

Considering consider gives you options. Okay. They're not gonna like force you to do anything.

[A]

Chad. GPT basically advised him to consider ending the relationship. I left that night while he was still sleeping. He showed up at my door later saying he realized that I had seen his chat. He was apologetic and said he had been ruminating, not fully meaning it. I realized he was using AI for emotional support in a way that started to feel like outsourcing his feelings, even in how he communicated with me. Now I'm stuck on whether I overreacted by ending it or if seeing someone's unfiltered doubts about you is something you just can't come back from. My main concern is also how I can. How can I date someone who uses Chat GPT as their personal therapist? Thanks. Okay, what do you think?

[B]

Like this question. Very 2026 question.

[A]

As 2026 as it gets. Yes, it's funny what she did. This is such like a.

[B]

This is very. Like a movie.

[A]

It's a movie. This is a total movie.

[B]

She ran out.

[A]

Get out of here. And. But it's also funny her immediate writing to us isn't like, she does consider this, but just the fact that he's. She's like mad at him for using Chat GPT to get out his emotions. Like, that's such like a funny.

[B]

It's also funny that she's saying that while writing into a podcast.

[A]

Right? Like, he's allowed the. The act to me is not.

[B]

Yeah, that part. Like, how can I date someone who uses chat? That part to me is like, not. Not shouldn't be upset.

[A]

You're looking to form a posse. You're looking for other people to go. You know, like, when you do that, you're like, you're ignoring the point to try and like demean him. Yes, because he's using Chat GPT as in the same way that someone could demean you for using this podcast.

[B]

And here's the thing. I think, like, as someone who uses Chat gbt, although everyone hates me for it, I'm merely Not supposed to. It's not cool. It's not cool to talk about how you use AI.

[A]

You're not one of those badasses.

[B]

But as someone who does use it, I will say that you get, you get prompted a lot. So something that you might start maybe some, maybe a thought that you had and, and it, it is tempting to sort of like ask it a lot of thoughts that you have because it responds in a way that like a friend that you don't have to deal with the next day would. I don't ask it emotional questions, but like I can, I ask it many questions and it has a lot of follow up. It feels like it could be your therapist.

[A]

Does it feel like you're with a good podcast co host?

[B]

It could.

[A]

You have good.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's like I would imagine that what it would be like, I mean, it

[B]

could feel like you're with like a friend, right? Like, like you're a friend you're talking to and kind of like wanting to kind of like gauge their opinion.

[A]

So I've never used it in this capacity. I don't think I've really ever used it once. I'm one of those good.

[B]

Yes. I mean that's what the Internet says. You bad, me good. When it comes to me good.

[A]

You bad.

[B]

Yes, you good, me bad.

[A]

Weird on the Internet. That's crazy. But I, So if I said, hey, Jordana, GPT I, I'm not sure about my relationship.

[B]

JBT would say, well, tell me, tell me more about like your relationship. Like what's pushing what is. Yeah, what's. What is. What is bothering you about your relationship?

[A]

So you're basically saying you're giving empathy to this guy who's like in position where like once you start now, you're really going to be pouring out all your problems.

[B]

Yeah, well, that's. I'm gonna say. Then let's say you say. I say, well, tell me about your. I don't know, I'm just like, not really sure if my girlfriend's the one or like maybe I've never said this, if I should stay with her or if, or if you know, I've never said this.

[A]

I have a girlfriend to protect.

[B]

This is, this is as if I'm talking about, I'm being her, her boyfriend. I'm talking about like what he would physically write. Maybe he wrote this. I'm not really sure. Like, like, how do you know? How do you. He might write this. How do you know if the person you're dating is someone that you should be with forever or. Or is not the person for you.

[A]

The weird part about that is, like, Chat GBT could be using things we've said on this podcast.

[B]

Totally. We might have. So we might have told him to break up with you. Right. So, like, you might say that. Right. A general question I'm using for someone who's, like, thinking about it, not maybe he doesn't even know if he. If he's sure or if he should know. If he's sure, then Chad GPT says, well, tell me about your relationship. Or, like, what are your. What are your worries about your relationship?

[A]

Right.

[B]

And then you might say, well, I don't know. She has these cats that I just, like, I really don't like. Blah, blah, blah, like, or what if.

[A]

My response to that is, what if these are the questions and answers she would have gotten if he was just injected with true serum.

[B]

That is exactly what she would have.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So her problem is hearing the truth.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Which is he has insecurities about the future.

[B]

And this is a hard thing to say to someone.

[A]

This is why there's not a lot of men in the dating and relationship space. Like, if you think about it, like, for her to. Then, like, if a man was like, well, who would want to date someone who gets their feelings out to Chat GPT or three cats. I'm saying, like, all he's doing is saying how he feels in the most.

[B]

Privately.

[A]

Privately. And now it, you know, now it's

[B]

like reading his diary.

[A]

Right. And now you're hearing it, and it's like, you ended it. I don't think she's wrong for ending it. I can't tell her. But, like, I don't think she got the full discussion.

[B]

I think they need to address it.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I think this is like a Pandora's box. Obviously, like, this would be very. I feel bad for her. This is a very upsetting thing to have to read that someone is doubting you. And I don't think. Again, let's say she found. Let's forgot Chat gbt. Let's say she found out there was a conversation he had with his friend at a bar about the same thing.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Would that. I don't. I think it would you. She would feel the same way.

[A]

Totally. And now you have to hear how this person's.

[B]

His feelings, his concerns about you. I don't think that necessarily means they have to break up.

[A]

I'm with you. And, like, do they need to.

[B]

Like, this might cost them a few therapy sessions.

[A]

Sure. They had happened little by little. Over time, if he was a better communicator, I can blame him for that. If when you got ready, took a while to get ready, he got. Told you how upset he was about it, right? Because he might be saying these things and not be that upset. Like, she takes a long time to get ready. Like when you're. When it's all mushed together and asked at once, it feels like it's a problem you've had for a while.

[B]

Especially when you're. When you're like, probed to give more.

[A]

Right. So I. I just. I do think ending it again, the problem.

[B]

They need to work through that. What she saw and ask about. And I think she. If she. She will do better if she comes at it from a place of like, of. Of wanting to learn more and not, like, extreme anger.

[A]

Right?

[B]

Like, if she's. If she comes at it from a place of like, I saw this thing. It was really upsetting to me. Like, I'm also upset that, you know, that you could never say any of these things to my face. Like, and that you've been thinking these things for a while and it makes me worry that you've been thinking about a lot of things that you've never said to me.

[A]

I am.

[B]

I think we should. I think we should talk about the things that I saw one by one and get into them and, like, clear the air. Let's let it all out.

[A]

And it might be. And I'll speak to my relationship. I think you might agree is like, there's a lot of things that you date someone. You go, I thought I would have dated someone who didn't do this.

[B]

Yeah. 100.

[A]

And when you're asked about it and put it on a page, you might not say that to them.

[B]

Right. But if someone asked you a probing question of, like, what are the things that you thought that. That your ideal partner has that your current partner doesn't have?

[A]

Right. And you're compared against a ghost. Like so. And it's really not fair. So I think, yeah, she jumped the. The gun a little bit.

[B]

Yeah. No, I agree. I think, again, this is salvageable. Depending on this next conversation goes. But. And this could be really good for your relationship, right? If it's done correctly. Anything it's approached correctly. And if you, like, actually work through the things that you saw and he gets a chance to say them and talk through them with you to your

[A]

face, we solve dating again.

[B]

We did it. We'll be back next week. Bye.

[A]

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