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A
Is that my wife?
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B
No, it's Jordana.
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A
Oh. If you're not watching on YouTube. We are in the Love is Blind pods. We can only hear one another. We can't see each other at all.
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B
Yeah. And, I mean, we've given couples a lot of grief for things they do in the pods, so we thought it was our time to, like, know what it's really like.
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A
For the last five years, we have been watching Love is Blind, and we are absolutely fascinated by the show, by the experiments, and we are just so pumped to be in the pods right now because I can speak for Jordana. We love this show so much.
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B
Yeah. And it's been five years since the show started. We have been recapping it since it launched. It was one of our most popular episodes when we did that first recap. It's really just taken the world by storm since then.
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A
Five years of memeable moments and taking over the group chat, and every season that they've had, it seems like becomes the national conversation. Jordan, I'm so excited about doing this episode because we're playing all our fun games here in the pods. We're also going to play a very special game that we could only play here in the pods without seeing each other.
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B
Before we get started, we want to say thank you to Netflix for partnering with us to celebrate five years of Love is Blind. We are so excited to be here. It is so cool to get to experience this firsthand. You really get an intimate look at what's going on here.
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A
Can you believe it's been five years? Like, hilarious moments, iconic moments, emotional moments. There have been couples that have moved on to have babies and get married and breakups. And it's just so cool that this show just keeps going and going and is really like a mirror to the dating world we talk about every week.
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B
Season 8 just dropped last Friday, so if you haven't watched the first six episodes, spoiler alert. We're going to be talking about what's already happening this new season. So if you haven't watched, go watch and then come back to YouTube and watch it hereafter.
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A
You know, Jordana, there's been so many, like, videos made of, like, people sitting in the pods and, like, getting antsy.
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B
Yes.
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A
And I totally understand it.
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B
Yeah. It's nerve wracking. You know, it's so funny because I used to watch and I would be like, I don't understand why they're getting dressed up. Like, the person can't see them. Why aren't they looking like a Gremlin. Like, I would look like on any other day. It goes to show you, like, dressing up or, like, putting on, like, a date outfit, doing your makeup and hair and, like, getting ready for the date would really put you in that. More of that romantic mode.
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A
Spoken like a true CEO. Jordan, get back in the office. Our workflow is interrupted. It's. You're not going to work as well if you. If you're in your slippers.
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B
Exactly. Take off that sweat.
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A
But I agree with you. I actually like sitting here. I'm like. I don't know if I would be able to, like, be in my PJs, but I would, like, I'd be touching everything. I'm already playing with the pen. I got the, you know, the iconic, you know, gold, you know, goblet.
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B
Yeah. And partially it's because, like, I'm a little. I'm a little nervous. And it's funny just, like, being nervous in here talking to you when there's nothing at stake. We know each other and we're not strangers. Like, I can only imagine how, like, high the anticipation would be and, like, a little bit of the anxiety and the nerves speaking to someone that you really have, like, a total blank slate of, like, where would you even start?
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A
I guess my first question, what are you wearing? No, I. So are you hot? Are you there? I guess that would be my. I would try and go jokey. I do think it is hard to keep that up. Like, yeah, this does kind of like, induce you to, like, I gotta talk. Like, I gotta get deep.
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B
Right. And if you're not talking about, like, that deep, intimate stuff, then there's no point in coming back for another date. Right. Because that's why you're here. So it's not like, on a regular date where you could kind of just keep it surface level and then go home. Like, this is what you're here to do.
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A
Well, I do think that works like an app. Like, I do think it starts light. Like, I do understand when we see those seasons where, like, there's a guy or girl who comes in and they do the same question over and over again. I think I would go that way.
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B
Right. Well, it's like a dating app opener.
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A
Yeah. Like, start with, like, a basis. Like, I would. I would definitely do something food related. Okay. You go to Chinese food on a Sunday night. What are you getting? I think starting light, and then that gets you deeper. I do think the deeper stuff comes quicker. Though the show is successful. I think that's something we have to acknowledge. Here.
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B
Totally. There's so many married couples. I mean, you see them at a lot of the reunions, and these people are thriving. It kind of really does have a pretty good testament to the success rate of this show and the way that the experiment really works.
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A
Eight seasons across eight different cities, and we've got 10 married couples and even two love is blind babies and one more on the way.
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B
Amazing. Well, I think by taking away the physical aspect of it, I really do think it adds this layer of, like, there has to be a sincerity. Because even if obviously looks are not the whole package or the whole. The only thing, people are making assessments for who to choose as partners. It's definitely distracting.
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A
Yeah, I think it's distracting also. I think it helps that they take people from one city.
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B
Yes. But there's such great, like, fan favorites, and people really root and love so many of these couples.
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A
Who's your favorite couple?
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B
I really love the OGs, Lauren and Cameron, season one from Atlanta. I just think there's like, a purity to them. It felt so authentic. And maybe another part of it just being that it's season one. No one who went on the show has any idea how big it's gonna be. They have no idea what to expect. It just felt so real. And I really just, like, loved watching them fall in love.
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A
Yeah. My favorite was Johnny and Amy. You know why I like them? Because they had controversy.
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B
Yeah.
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A
This show gets, as we said before, it's memed to death. It turns into a national conversation. And Johnny and Amy had the whole thing about using birth control.
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B
Yes.
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A
And she didn't wanna take the pill. And he seemingly didn't know that condoms existed.
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B
Yeah. They were ignoring that fact for a while.
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A
Right. It was like condoms weren't even on this planet. I think what this show does a lot is it takes conversations that are happening in the real world and has them on screen.
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B
Definitely. Because the stakes are like, they have to have those conversations. Right. They're about to get married. They're about to sign a legal document that's binding them. So I think the stakes of this show do, you know, make it so that those real life issues are talked about. You can't just talk about pop culture, Instagram or something like that. But this show has also had so many memeable moments. There's always something super viral that comes out from every season. What was one of your top memeable love is blind moments?
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A
I think one of my favorite moments was Jessica's breakup speech.
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B
Okay. Iconic.
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A
An iconic breakup speech. I'll read it to you. So Jimmy is in a love triangle with Jessica and Chelsea. Chelsea, who famously said she looked like Megan Fox. Megan.
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B
And another memeable moment.
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A
Another memeable moment. So Chelsea says she might look like Megan Fox.
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B
That's her celebrity doppelganger.
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A
She says, yes, that is, I have to say, if I ever went on the show, we're going to do a celebrity doppelganger. I will never. That is a subject I would stay so far away.
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B
You can't win.
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A
You can't win. You've either gone too hot or you've insulted someone. No, no, no, no. Look alikes. You cannot. That is a lesson learned, right?
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B
Because you'd have to. You'd have to go down. You'd have to, like, under. You have to over deliver under. Promise.
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A
If they were like, jared, who do you look like? If someone asked that question, I'd be like Rosie o' Donnell from A League of Their Own. I'd just be like, I don't. I'm. I'm androgynous. I'm just like, Just make me that. I wouldn't care. So Jessica, who's in this love triangle with Jimmy and Chelsea, here's her speech.
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B
Let's hear it.
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A
When Jimmy ends, I want you to.
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B
Say it like she said it in her tone.
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A
You ready?
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B
Okay.
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A
When you see and realize what you missed out on, you're gonna choke. You're gonna choke. You're gonna need your EpiPen to open up your airways because you're gonna be in disbelief of what you missed out on. You little bitch. No, I added the end. What a villain speech.
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B
Yeah. Wow. It's funny also, because it seemed like it was so quick and so well said almost that it seemed like she had practiced it. You know what I mean?
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A
That's the wild part. And it's like everyone. Here's the thing.
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B
Like, who would even think of saying someone, like, would choke. Asthmatic choke on their EpiPen. Like that. A well thought out analogy.
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A
Yeah. And you'd really have to, like, take note of the personal things they've told you. That's how well they get to know each other.
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B
Weaponizing their asthma against them.
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A
Right? Like, I think on other dating shows, they get married. Like, you have an EpiPen. Like, they wouldn't even know, right here, she's like, you're gonna take that EpiPen and then you're gonna. You're gonna have to put it in your leg. The same leg your grandma told you look strong when you were kicking the soccer ball growing up, like, she knew everything.
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B
Right. That's how you know it's real. You know, she's. She's. Because they're using your vulnerabilities right against you.
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A
Right.
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B
Just like in the real world.
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A
Just. Well, that was the thing that was so strange about. She became a hero from that speech, I don't think.
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B
Did she? I thought it was, like, unbecoming.
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A
I thought so, too, but I don't have a memory of, like, the audience turning against her.
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B
And I. I always think it's unbecoming when you. When you call yourself hot, which they. Which they often kind of have to do.
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A
Right.
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B
On the show. They have to rate their own attractiveness to an extent, a lot of the times in these conversations. But I always think it's like, not a great look when someone's talking about how hot they are.
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A
I have a question for you.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Because some people come on this show and they are 100% the experiment. They're like, I'm not going to reveal my background, my race, my. My. Anything about my life. And some people. I mean, what Jessica is doing here is she's basically saying, you will not be happy with who you chose.
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B
Right.
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A
Would you hint at your look? Would you talk about your look? I mean, I wouldn't do a doppelganger. I'm out on that.
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B
But I think it's tough. I would like to say that I would. I would take the experiment super seriously and really not talk about it, but I do think some parts of the way you look are part of your story and also usually include, like, other aspects of your. Your personality. Like, what was the couple where she didn't want to say what her ethnicity was.
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A
They just got Matt, Grant, Garrett and Taylor. Yeah.
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B
And for me, like, I understood where she was coming from, but I was also like, wouldn't that also kind of affect your whole experience and your personality? So I think to the extent that I would feel like it had to do with that, I would relay it or I would imagine I would. What about you?
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A
That's the magic of my Sunday night Chinese food question. They're like, yeah, I love Sunday night Chinese food. Used to do it every Sunday night with my family. I'd be like, jew.
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B
Show, don't tell, Right?
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A
That's right. I'd be like, so when you were 13, did you ever have a big party?
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B
A smar shmitzvah?
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A
Yeah. You know what? I think my method would be strict to the experiment at first, waning off of it as I weighing down the people.
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B
Okay.
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A
Like, I think my initial talks would be like, let's try this.
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B
Yeah, I would. Yeah, I agree with that. I would start general, and then as you build the more intimate relationship, I think I would reveal.
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A
Reveal more, which I think would be a fun thing to talk about. In those first few pods. If they got into, like, looks quite. I'd be like. I'd be like, hey, I kind of want to, like, see how this goes.
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B
Right. In 2020 is when we recapped Love is Blind for the first time new show. We had never seen it before. We actually have some clips from our initial review of the show, and we're going to look back on it.
- [12:05]
A
I love this. I haven't heard this since we said it.
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B
Me neither. I'm a little anxious.
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A
They're living in what could be best described as a futuristic. Remember that Jennifer Lawrence movie with Chris Pratt that didn't do well?
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B
I kind of know what you're talking about.
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A
Where they lived in a spaceship and they woke up midway through the flight.
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B
Right.
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A
It kind of feels like you're in a futuristic version of the world. Like the world had ended and they were both moved into male and female fallout shelters. I still feel that way.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Being here now, I'm like, more. So maybe right now that we're here, it does feel like this is where we'd, like, repopulate the world.
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B
Yeah. It's like a futuristic form of dating, for sure.
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A
Okay, so do we have another one? We have Jessica and Mark. He's 24 and she's 34. She's like, how do you feel? They talk about the age. He's totally. Mark is totally up about his age. He's, like, totally fine with it.
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B
Yeah.
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A
So they go back to her house.
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B
And she's feeding the dog wine.
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A
She's feeding the dog wine. She's drinking the wine. And then she goes, you know, I'm 34. I'm going to want a baby right away. And he goes, I love it. I love babies. I just love you. I want to have your baby.
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B
Oh, what happens when I'm 40 and you're 30? He's like, that's cool.
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A
That's cool. That's how math.
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B
What happens?
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A
That's how aging goes.
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B
What happens when I'm 90 and you're 80?
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A
My mom's 90 and I'm this age?
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B
She's like, well, I really don't like that. You, like, love your mom.
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A
Yeah. And then she makes it about the mom. Here's what she's Trying to do. And I've done this, so I know it when it's being done. She is trying to get Mark to dump her. She was trying to do tattoo, lose a guy in 10 days.
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B
Also, like, who is crazier, her or him? Who's like, I've met the woman of my dreams. Wow.
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A
Now, Jordana, I think your favorite of all time is probably Jessica34, Mark 24.
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B
The memes that came out of Jessica34, Mark 24, were just incredible. And Jessica was the first one to play this love is blind game of getting the. Of not being interested in the person that you wind up with and then doing whatever you can to make yourself so horrible that they break up with you. And it didn't really work on Mark. I think it was so great because it kind of showed where, like, she kept repeating this thing all season, and in her mind, she probably was, like, just stating something on her mind. But to us, the audience, it just sounded like she would not let go of this thing. Like, she sounded, I think, crazier to the audience than maybe she did in her head, where she doesn't think she's bringing it up as a complex. But to us, it's like, there she goes again. Jessica 34, mark 24.
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A
It shows you, you know, however you think you sound. You might not sound that way.
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B
Yes.
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A
You know, you don't know where your insecurities show, where the cracks kind of, you know, show through. And you loved it. I remember loved it. You were a huge Jessica 34 fan. Cause she probably brought it up, like, a thousand times, right?
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B
And she kind of just kept using it as, like, the excuse for every single thing. That was just, like, an entertaining couple to watch. That was the first time that you saw just, like, the. She wanted to see how far she could push him. Like, anything he said was wrong. And it kind of also displays, like, what it's like when you're in a bad relationship and everything annoys you about the other person, Right? Where he was like. He said, I love my mom. And she was like, well, I can't have someone who's just too into their mom.
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A
Right.
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B
Like, she was trying to find something negative with him.
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A
And that is a reoccurring thing on this show. When we see breakups, it's like, this is also relatable to our podcast, but, like, the one person who's, like, honestly trying and the other person who's just, like, stonewalling them.
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B
Yes.
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A
So we have one more clip from our initial episode of reviewing Love is Blind. Let's hit that clip. The premise of the show is that they're gonna have. I don't know how many.
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B
They start with 20 people. Did they.
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A
Is that much, right?
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B
Yeah, it's 10 women, 10 men. They all are. They're living together for 10 days.
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A
So they're living on two separate wings of the house.
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B
Right. They can't see each other. They have to walk into these rooms to speak to each other, basically through a wall. It's kind of like being in a chat room, only you can, like, hear the person's voice. But, like, you don't have a picture. You just have to imagine them in your.
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A
It's like if we did this podcast with a wall in between us, right? That's basically what the pods are.
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B
Wow.
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A
Wow.
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B
Look at us. We manifested this.
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A
Look how far we've come.
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B
Yes. Wow. I have to say, now that we're, like, a little further into this podcast, I. I have made myself much more at home in this pod. I feel like it's. My. My feet are up. I'm, like, getting comfy.
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A
I've done the opposite. I've. I've zoned in.
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B
Really?
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A
Like, I keep looking at the snacks.
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B
Well, it's funny how, like, you know, if we were in the same room together, you. Our body language would probably. We try to match each other's body language of, like, we're in or out, and you kind of are doing your own thing. And it's funny. You see the people, like, pacing a lot of the times in the pods, or they're doing, like, a nervous tap.
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A
Right. I have to ask you, is it less crazy now?
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B
Yeah, I get it.
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A
You get it?
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B
I get it. Yes. There's a romantic vibe to all of it.
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A
Right.
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B
And the idea of, like, I'm not leaving here until I'm engaged. Like, that's the only way out until.
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A
I walk out with a ring. Yeah.
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B
We've given a lot of shit to the people on this show before about, like, I don't, but I think now I kind of get the experience more, and I can see how a lot of the stuff. What happened?
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A
Okay, so, Jordana, let's play a game called Intuition tests. In the pods, you can't read body language. You can only hear someone's voice. So we're gonna read different lines in different emotional states and try and guess how the other person's feeling. Even if you're only listening to the podcast, you can play along with us because we're gonna be reading these scripts at the same time.
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B
It's funny when there's, like, any kind of silence, I'm like, is he mad at me? You really don't get any.
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A
I would have started the game without you.
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B
Right. All right, I'll start. How are you today?
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A
You know, I'm okay. I've just been thinking a lot about you and just everything else.
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B
Oh, my God. You're gonna break up with me? That would be my immediate thought. That sounds like a you're gonna break up with me tone.
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A
Well, I'd be concerned and anxious.
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B
Yes. And you're saying it like bad news is about to be said. That's what I'm feeling.
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A
I'm truly concerned about us and anxious about having this conversation with you.
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B
Yes.
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A
The second one is you're gonna ask me a question again. And I got a new emotion.
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B
Okay. How are you today?
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A
I'm okay. I've just been thinking a lot about, you know, you and everything.
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B
Okay, this sounds like you're into me.
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A
Smitten. That's right.
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B
Like you can't stop thinking about. You're obsessed with me. You can't stop thinking about me.
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A
You got it? Right away. Okay, now it's your turn. Jordana, you ready?
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B
Okay.
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A
Hey, it's me.
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B
It's nice to hear from you. You know, I feel like we haven't talked in forever.
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A
You're angry at me. I did something wrong.
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B
Sound like my mom after I haven't called her in.
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A
Yeah, that's not a few weeks. That sounds like someone I've been so.
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B
Nice to hear from, you fading from. Yeah, you got it. Resentful slash passive aggressive was the way this was described.
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A
Yeah. Okay, let's do another one. You ready?
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B
Okay.
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A
Hey, it's me.
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B
So nice to hear from you. You know, I feel like we haven't talked in forever.
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A
You're curious as to how I feel.
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B
I guess I'm really bad at sincere and happy. Maybe I would be bad in the bods. It's like, why does she always sound like she doesn't care?
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A
She always sounds like she doesn't trust anything I'm saying.
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B
Well, it's funny, though, that I could think I'm coming off sincere and happy.
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A
Right.
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B
And you're kind of. You're reading it as, you know, not as passive aggressive as the first one.
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A
But this is why I think all these relationships get accelerated. Like we talked in our flashback about it's 10 days long and how do you fall in love in 10 days? But, like, if you said to me, like, hey, how are you? What's been going on, and I'm like, what do you mean by that? Like, I think I would be faster, too, asking more questions.
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B
Yeah, totally. And I think, you know, it's interesting because I think it'd be both harder and easier to be vulnerable. It's easier to say something without having to, like, look at someone's face when, like, you say it. Like, I think it'd be easier to break up with someone through a wall.
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A
Right.
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B
Because you don't have to watch them, like, look really upset. But in some ways, it's also harder because, like, if you say something really vulnerable, you know, sometimes, like, when they give them those letters and they say something really vulnerable and sweet, and you can't watch them react to you reading it, so you kind of are left to just in your own mind, and you have to really, really hang on to the tone.
- [20:43]
A
We had this whole thing in season eight with Alex and Madison about their attachment style, and it's like they kind of sniffed that out of each other. So do you know the different attachment styles?
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B
I do. Do you know which one you are? I am an avoidant. Uh oh. Uh oh.
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A
Madison, let's talk about it.
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B
Yes.
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A
So avoidance.
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B
Yeah. So, I mean, I think that's my natural inclination. Right. Is to be an avoidant. When I feel someone's energy start changing towards me, I get scared and I kind of run. It's in a sense of, like, well, I don't need them anyway. Do you know what I mean?
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A
I do. Yeah. And I think that's maybe a little bit of a trigger for me, because past relationships, I dealt with that, but.
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B
Like, on the extreme end of it, I'm more anxious.
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A
I feel like I'm not good enough.
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B
And so I want you to show.
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A
Me that, yes, you care about me and that you are not abandoning me.
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B
Yeah. And for you, it's like, let me get away and be on my own.
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A
Because I don't need you to.
- [21:44]
B
To show me that I'm good enough. Yeah.
- [21:46]
A
I think that could lead to some issues. When I came in here, I thought that you were the strongest connection. And so I'm trying to really think about it, though.
- [21:56]
B
I don't want to, like, make wrong decision.
- [21:59]
A
I want to obviously, like, make a very informed decision.
- [22:02]
B
Yeah.
- [22:02]
A
I'll have to think about the attachment style conversation. It did feel like Alex pulled back because he's like, she's already said what her attachment style is, so now he's trying to, like, you know, investigate that.
- [22:17]
B
This was an interesting one because, you know, you See two people with very different versions of what a healthy relationship looks like.
- [22:25]
A
Right. I do think this is also, like, a little bit like, showing versus telling.
- [22:29]
B
Where he's asking about the.
- [22:32]
A
The minute these words, the minute these buzzwords come up, it's like. And it's kind of the problem that the pods sometimes have is like, you get so stuck on this, like, this view from thousand feet in the air, as opposed to, like, getting to know someone through their stories and how they talk to you and how much they open up to me. Alex and Madison, the reason they broke up is they got so in the weeds and they never seemed to, like, have fun together.
- [22:58]
B
Right. I think that is a big part of it.
- [23:00]
A
Right. Because Madison had Mason that she kind of had, like, as a backup.
- [23:04]
B
Right.
- [23:05]
A
And her and Mason, all their conversation was like, fun, flirty, sexual. And it seemed like she didn't care to go that way with him, but then with the one she wanted, she wanted to make sure it was perfect and he knew everything he was going to get before they got together. And then Madison doesn't really trust Mason. Cause all they do is talk about, like, he's just trying to be flirty the whole time.
- [23:29]
B
Right. Which, I mean, he definitely has more flirty conversations. But I think it's tough in this very specific dating type scenario where the goal is to be engaged. Like, the downside is that it's not like in the real world, you know? And you see this with Ben where he's like, you're just gonna have to see my actions and see what kind of person I am.
- [23:50]
A
Right. It is funny. Cause, like, you look at a couple like Joey and Monica are a golden retriever couple.
- [23:56]
B
Perfect. They're.
- [23:58]
A
They're perfect. But they're engaged in two episodes.
- [24:02]
B
Yeah.
- [24:03]
A
And think things were deeper, but they weren't depthy. And it's like Alex and Madison seemed to be, like, pulled apart by logic and there wasn't enough delusion.
- [24:15]
B
Right. You need a little bit more of a mix of romance.
- [24:18]
A
Right. So season seven, dc, we had Taylor and Garrett, and we had a whole scenario where Taylor finds out that one of Garrett's exes had reached out. And Garrett didn't exactly, like, tell the whole truth. Tell the whole truth. And then he told.
- [24:34]
B
He said he just liked it, but he responded.
- [24:37]
A
Right. He didn't really shut the door on it.
- [24:39]
B
Yeah. I just want to make it incredibly clear that if other women from your past are talking to you, you're just shutting it down. I'm engaged. That's it. Shut it down. It's shut it down. Don't just, like, leave them on red. Or, like, even worse, like. Like something I totally, totally, totally understand. I'm sorry. It obviously didn't mean anything. Like, I don't feel any sort of way. I saw it this morning.
- [25:04]
A
I didn't know how to react.
- [25:06]
B
I just liked the message.
- [25:07]
A
And then I literally did not think.
- [25:08]
B
About it the rest of the day.
- [25:10]
A
She isn't anything to me anymore.
- [25:11]
B
I know, but it's just my past. I know that it's not part of your life, but I do want you to think about, like, how would this make me feel?
- [25:17]
A
I know. I hear that.
- [25:18]
B
100%. Yes. Especially as someone who has been cheated on is putting an incredible amount of faith in you and, like, believing in, like, trusting you completely. You're gonna be married in, like, a week, and I'm 100% here. 100% here. I don't wanna say it's okay right now because that just, like, wouldn't be honest. And it's just really bad timing that we had all day to talk about.
- [25:39]
A
This, and now, like, I didn't think about it. Right. Yeah.
- [25:41]
B
And I should have thought about it. And that's the difference. I understand. Yeah. Which kind of scares me a little bit. Like, it's just. I'm just. I'm pissed. I thought that the super realistic part of that fight, you can have great communication and still be, like, annoyed.
- [25:57]
A
Yeah.
- [25:58]
B
It wasn't. Like, he just said sorry and they were. She was over it right away. Like, there was. There was a moment where she was, like. Needed, like, a little bit of space and was very, like, mad at him. And I think that was also felt very realistic to what it would be. Like, she's like, okay, like, I'm not going to end this over this, but this is an annoying thing that I've clocked about you.
- [26:16]
A
Well, it's interesting because, like, I'm thinking now of Alex and Madison. Like, why did that not work out? And why does Garrett and Taylor work out? 1. Garrett and Taylor, like, with each other already they're in the real world. There's a concrete example. Like, with Alex, like, he's only going on, you know, buzzwords and psychology terms. It's funny. Like, if we could drop into their pod conversation, go, here's a scenario. How do you handle it?
- [26:41]
B
Right.
- [26:42]
A
It might have helped them out.
- [26:44]
B
Yeah. I mean, and Alex wouldn't even go there to commit, though. Like, which I get. Because you're about to get engaged.
- [26:51]
A
Right.
- [26:51]
B
But there is an aspect That I think is relatable to a lot of men, where it's like, why don't you just, like, really date me? And then you can figure out if we're not the match.
- [27:01]
A
You know, if I was on a date with someone and I can't see what they look like, and they're like, yeah, whenever I get upset, I just, like, fly above my own body and don't have any control over myself, I'd be like, well, when does that happen? Like, I understand. I feel bad that you're going through that, but, like, can you give me a time where that happened and how you came back from that?
- [27:19]
B
I don't know. I guess it's fair he wanted more information about who he's gonna get engaged to. Fair.
- [27:25]
A
So do you think you can really date someone who has conflicting communication styles?
- [27:29]
B
I think you can if they're both willing to work on it. You know, I don't think all relationships are perfect. I think you can have miscommunications a lot. But I think it's more about the person's willingness to see things from a different perspective is more the important thing than that you both communicate exactly the same way.
- [27:48]
A
Right. The idea that two communication styles have never worked out is crazy. Yeah.
- [27:52]
B
I mean, it can be challenging, but I think, again, it's more about wanting things to work, wanting to see the other person's perspective than assuming you're gonna see the person's perspective every time immediately.
- [28:05]
A
To me, the communication style, the naming of it is the problem. Calling it, if you're trying to figure something out and someone goes, well, I don't communicate that way. It's like, well, then what are we gonna do here?
- [28:16]
B
Right?
- [28:17]
A
What's the solution? What style you want to do today?
- [28:19]
B
Yeah, Well, I think, again, like, the style for everyone should be like, can you think about this from my perspective for a minute?
- [28:26]
A
Right.
- [28:26]
B
And your willingness to put yourself in someone else's shoes.
- [28:31]
A
Okay, let's play couples court. We have our gavels out. If you're watching on YouTube. We're gonna play couples court from the pods. We're gonna review one of the most viral fights from Love is Blind. And it's Chelsea and Jimmy from season.
- [28:45]
B
Six, A classic fight. Chelsea and Jimmy pretty much implode right out the gate. And one of their most heated fights is about Jimmy spending time with one of his close female friends who he had slept with a while back. I can be cranky with you.
- [28:58]
A
That was the most reasonable thing for me to do. I was gone for an Hour.
- [29:02]
B
I'm interrupting. You girls from the pods are there, and then I find out you're with your girls. That's not cool with me. It's not cool with me if.
- [29:12]
A
If it's offending you that I have girlfriends. And that's another whole nother issue.
- [29:17]
B
Who are you with last night? Who are you with last night?
- [29:20]
A
Oh, my God. I'm not gonna sit here and talk to you about this, okay?
- [29:26]
B
You're not being respectful to me.
- [29:28]
A
How am I not being respectful to you?
- [29:29]
B
How? How? Every day. Who do you hang out with every single day? Where do you go when you. When you're not here?
- [29:37]
A
I have been with you every.
- [29:39]
B
Where do you go when you work?
- [29:39]
A
That's where. We're not on the same page.
- [29:41]
B
Where do you go when you work? Here. Really?
- [29:44]
A
Here. I went to my apartment one day. I worked.
- [29:48]
B
Who do you text all day? Who do you text? Oh, my goodness.
- [29:53]
A
If you're fishing for me to tell you that I text my girlfriends all the time.
- [29:57]
B
I see.
- [29:57]
A
If you want to sign up with me, you have to sign up for all my friends, too.
- [30:00]
B
It's a respecting, babe. It's a respecting, baby.
- [30:02]
A
I'll take a step back from hanging out with girlfriends if that's what you want. You haven't asked me.
- [30:06]
B
Yes, I have. But you. Apparently, I haven't fucking listened. When?
- [30:10]
A
Tell me right now, do you want.
- [30:11]
B
Me to take a step back? Of course I do.
- [30:14]
A
And I told you that I'm not willing to take a step back. I always felt that the crux of their arguments were that Chelsea never trusted that Jimmy was, like, into it.
- [30:34]
B
Right.
- [30:34]
A
And I remember from this season when the big joke was the, does she look like Megan Fox or not? But I think when you say something like that, you set up a scenario where you don't trust the person that you've come together with.
- [30:51]
B
Right. You don't trust them to love you for who you're presenting yourself as. I do agree all of their fights kind of do seem to stem from Chelsea's insecurity and this feeling of, like, devaluing herself.
- [31:04]
A
Right. And listen, can you hang out with someone you have had a romantic relationship with? Yes. Could it make someone feel uncomfortable? Of course. Like, I think, like, that's the tough thing about that question and why it gets, like, infiltrated by bad actors.
- [31:20]
B
Right. Well, I think the issue is that makes me more on Jimmy's side here, is that she knew this. Right? It wasn't like he kept this from her. It wasn't like he didn't introduce her. Like, he was very transparent about it. She also revealed that on the show, which she had told him she was not gonna do. So I think there's like a betrayal aspect there on her end. But I think the insecurity is okay. It's the way that it came out on her part where she, like, was villainizing him for something that she had sort of agreed to.
- [31:52]
A
Right. Well, the agreement was that she wasn't gonna name the person.
- [31:56]
B
But also she also agreed that he could have her as a female friend. Like, that wasn't. That was part of. And he was always very open about that. So I think to decide because you're feeling insecure that someone can't hang out with someone is not really fair.
- [32:10]
A
And even more so, like when you have a due date for when you're gonna get married, and like this whole train is heading to that station, like, that puts me more on Jimmy's side. Cuz you see this one thing and you go, is this the rest of my life that I'm signing up for right now?
- [32:27]
B
Right.
- [32:27]
A
You know, there's no, hey, let's wait a year, hey, let's go through the planning process together. No. Three months in, we're married.
- [32:34]
B
And there's no way to like, test, you know, this on other situations. So you kind of have to assume that the way that someone acts in this situation is gonna be the way they're gonna react in all situations that are similar. Because you don't have enough evidence or you don't have enough data to say, oh, this was like an outlier. You know, I always say, wait until they're legally married to you.
- [32:54]
A
Right.
- [32:54]
B
To show who you really are.
- [32:55]
A
Chelsea made the age old mistake of being her true self before they got the paperwork done.
- [33:02]
B
Exactly. Amateur move.
- [33:04]
A
So we're gonna rule in couples court. We're ruling in favor of Jimmy.
- [33:07]
B
We're ruling in favor of Jimmy. So it is said. And so it will be done.
- [33:13]
A
That is it. Okay, let's do another advice segment. How to pick the right person. A lot of singles who come on Love is Blind say they come on the show because they don't wanna date the same type of person they've always dated. Is that a reason you would go on the show, to date someone different than you've always dated?
- [33:29]
B
I think so. Although I'm not fully sure why it would do that, why this would set that up. With the exception of, let's say I was always dating guys who weren't really looking to commit, this would be A good way to. To narrow it down to guys who were willing to get married in under two months.
- [33:46]
A
Right. I guess that's a good point. But it's also, like, even on this season, when you have that guy Dave coming into the pods, his opening line is, what's wrong with you?
- [33:56]
B
Right.
- [33:56]
A
Like, that is a vibe that is a certain type, and I could understand someone goes, that's a type that has come up to me in the bar. That's a guy that said something like that to me before. You know, that's something I'm gonna run away from.
- [34:08]
B
Right.
- [34:09]
A
I could understand that. I don't know if I would be on the show to date something different. I think I would be on the show to, like, more so fall in love. To me, the experiment is like, let me put aside my phone, my eyes, my penis, and let me zone in. The distraction's gone.
- [34:28]
B
Yes. No phone, right? I mean, that's huge. Yeah. I think it's more like it'd be less about the person and more about putting yourself in a scenario where you're optimizing, like, prioritizing dating.
- [34:41]
A
Yeah. That would be my reason for going on another couple that was a mismatch and resulted in just a heartbreaking wedding when she was rejected. The altar was AD And Clay from season six. The way I did grow up with my father and, like, how I seen, like, cheating as a regular thing and the fact that my mom and dad were, like, best friends, but my dad still, you know, unfortunately, like, he was still cheating. You know, infidelity was a thing, and, like, my dad would take me with him to some of his infidelity trips. I've never seen a black relationship that. Where the man is faithful. And I'm not even blaming my dad. Like, I'm talking about, like, all black men that's been in my life. So to me, the concept of one girl, I'm always having a fear of, like, can I just be with one person? I take it serious with marriage and even with me loving you, like, everything. It's just that marriage part is just. It's, like a unknown thing for me. AD And Clay was a wild ending.
- [35:45]
B
Oh, yeah. What? He just thought they were gonna be, like, dating?
- [35:49]
A
It does show. I think the AD Clay thing kind of shows, like, the gender of it all. Like, I think, like, that love is not blind. Well, that love is not blind. And that, like, a lot of these men are coming on with, like, a very simple attitude towards the whole thing. It's not that complicated.
- [36:07]
B
Right.
- [36:07]
A
For Clay to Say, let's go walk down the aisle, and then let's be in a situationship. Cause that's how it ends.
- [36:16]
B
And think that she was gonna be cool with that.
- [36:18]
A
Right? The idea that she would go in front of friends and family, walk down the aisle with the dress on, and he'd say, no marriage, but we can fuck.
- [36:28]
B
Right? I mean, it just shows how the difference in seriousness of the different people who take this experiment. And oftentimes it's the women, I think, who are a little bit more taking it more seriously. Like the fact that he wouldn't. He clearly didn't take it seriously. If he thought it was fine to get up there and wait until the last second to say no in front of everyone, that wouldn't be extremely embarrassing.
- [36:50]
A
No one's stopping anyone from having a conversation before you go down the aisle.
- [36:55]
B
Right? Like, come on.
- [36:57]
A
Like, we. We could have done this anywhere else but here. And, you know, it seems like she's doing well now. I mean, she came back on one of the reunion episodes, but. And it's a devastating moment.
- [37:09]
B
Right? And that's the kind. I mean, that's the kind of person who, like, you should probably avoid. Should have. Maybe she should have avoided in the pod. Someone who's constantly saying, well, like, I'm really nervous I'm going to cheat on someone. You know, I have all this infidelity in my family. It's a big concern of mine. And sometimes you kind of just hear what you want to hear. And I think that's also very relatable to relationships. You kind of ignore the red flags. You just pay attention to the things that you like about a person, which is good once you've already committed. But before you get to that point, you should really be evaluating.
- [37:39]
A
It's interesting to go back to, like, the logical versus delusional. Like, it's a little delusional to hear someone go, ah, cheating. All we do is cheat. All we do is cheat. And then, like, believe that they're going to, like, be so romantic that they're going to get over the hump.
- [37:52]
B
Right? Well, that's someone dating. Probably people, like, they've always dated where they, you know, I can fix him, or it'll be different with me.
- [37:59]
A
Because the question she's probably afraid to ask is. And that you kind of have to ask someone like, that is like, okay, what's the plan here?
- [38:07]
B
So the cheating.
- [38:08]
A
I would want to, like, live in the logical with that person. Okay, I get it. You're cheating around your family. What's the one year. What's the one year plan? The two year plan. How do you see us working out? When do we have babies? When I would go more towards logical.
- [38:21]
B
Right.
- [38:22]
A
To like, you know, suss that person because you would just see them kind of like. But. Well, I don't know. Well, I haven't even thought that far. It's like, well, we're on the show. We're in a marriage show.
- [38:32]
B
Yeah.
- [38:32]
A
What's step two and three from here?
- [38:34]
B
Suss them out, smoke them out.
- [38:37]
A
Absolutely.
- [38:38]
B
Like, make them sweat.
- [38:39]
A
I don't think Clay is on that altar. If a few more questions are asked.
- [38:45]
B
Is that your advice to women in the real world?
- [38:48]
A
Yes.
- [38:49]
B
Ask more questions.
- [38:50]
A
Ask.
- [38:51]
B
I don't think Clay assume the worst in everyone.
- [38:53]
A
Right. I think Clay is a great example of, like, he really didn't think it through.
- [38:59]
B
Well, what kind. So what kind of questions should she have asked about kids?
- [39:01]
A
About just so many questions that he would have gone, hold on, we gotta talk before we go to the altar. And I ask you to just.
- [39:10]
B
Right. Like, give me some. Right. She should give him some scenarios. Like I. And I think when she started giving him those scenarios, his answers were not great. It was like, you know, if I get pregnant and I gained some weight, and he was like, you're just gonna go to the gym? Like, that should have. That should have raised another.
- [39:26]
A
That's not really thinking in the future. Like.
- [39:29]
B
Right. I don't want to blame the victim, though. He was uncool. Uncool.
- [39:33]
A
Yeah. Well, it's tough to blame AD But I. It is a good example of, like, dating. Of like, someone just assuming.
- [39:41]
B
Right.
- [39:42]
A
Let's play some red flag or deal breaker.
- [39:43]
B
Let's do it.
- [39:44]
A
So you're dating. One thing happens, and you have to decide whether it is a red flag, you just let it be, or it's a deal breaker. You end things sight unseen. Okay, we're gonna do some examples from Love is Blind.
- [39:57]
B
All right. Red flag or deal breaker? They wake you up at night when you have an early morning shift at 5am the next morning.
- [40:04]
A
This is in reference to Kenneth and Brittany. And he wakes her up in the middle of the night when she has to be up at 5am I can't believe that I'd be that mad.
- [40:13]
B
Right. Was it an accident?
- [40:14]
A
Right. Was it an accident? Why do you wake me up? Is it for. Is it to tell me about a bad dream and you're in your 30s. I'm gonna be annoyed. This next scenario is from Tim and Alex from season six. They take a nap on the day. Your parents come a long way to see you and meet your partner.
- [40:32]
B
You and I have very different takes on this.
- [40:34]
A
Absolutely.
- [40:35]
B
I think everyone's entitled to a midday nap after putting in at least three hours with someone that's. That's, you know, that's a family. My family takes napping very seriously.
- [40:45]
A
I can tell.
- [40:46]
B
Yeah.
- [40:47]
A
This is a deal breaker for you. It's a deal breaker for me.
- [40:50]
B
I think it's a deal breaker if they. No one wants to know. Well, how many activities can one family do in one day?
- [40:56]
A
I'm with you. There's a part of this I agree with you. If my family is coming from far enough away to have to stay in a hotel. Okay, then when we get together, we are together because it's a finite amount of time they're going to leave. I think everyone has the willpower to get to the end of a family trip for their partner. Now, as the partner, I would be responsible for planning a weekend with my parents that allows for a nap time.
- [41:26]
B
Yes. All right. Yeah, I would say. Okay, let's break.
- [41:29]
A
Right.
- [41:30]
B
We'll reconvene for dinner. Everyone go back to your hotel room.
- [41:33]
A
Someone's family for 24 full hours is crazy. I think this is where we disagreed because I just don't believe that someone would have 24 straight hours with someone's family.
- [41:45]
B
Well, she said it was like eight hours of talking about their commitment. Like, I would need a nap after that.
- [41:50]
A
But I think it's on the person whose parents it is to go, hey, mom and dad, come on, go to your hotel. You guys go nap. We'll go nap.
- [41:57]
B
Right.
- [41:58]
A
We'll need an 8.
- [41:58]
B
And I think the real issue there was, again, if he had, I could understand him saying, like, I really don't like when. If my parents are here. I would really appreciate if you didn't. Yeah, he didn't say that. He. Wait, he let, he let her nap and then he broke up with her after that. And I didn't think that was fair. Again, that seemed like poor communication to me. I think it also is your job, if you're, if it's. Your family's in town to make sure that the person you're with has a little bit of outs. A little time to themselves, like, let them go on a walk, let them take a nap. It's a lot to be on for that long with someone else's family.
- [42:30]
A
I think you're in a bad relationship if you're not like tag teaming this parent weekend. Like, if you're not, like, getting together with your partner and being like, how are we gonna play this? My parents are annoying, and we gotta make sure we get napsa.
- [42:44]
B
Right. He's gotta, like, he's gotta give her the what she needs to do to impress his family. Like, he's just waiting for her to mess up and then dumps her. I don't think it was right.
- [42:53]
A
The more I talk about this with you, the more I blame him for this whole scenario.
- [42:57]
B
All on him. All right, let's do another one. They won't stop talking about how rich they are.
- [43:03]
A
It's a deal breaker.
- [43:05]
B
Yes.
- [43:05]
A
This is Leo, season seven. It's the context of how Leo spoke about it, how rich he was, but he doesn't want anyone taking advantage of him for his money.
- [43:14]
B
I mean, to me, it's like, if you're saying you don't want anyone to take advantage of your money, but that's the only thing you talk about, it's pretty clear why you only wind up dating people that take advantage of you from your money.
- [43:25]
A
Right.
- [43:25]
B
And you made it a part of your personality.
- [43:27]
A
And it's clear that's how you get women.
- [43:31]
B
Right. To me, this is the same thing as bragging about how hot you are.
- [43:34]
A
Right.
- [43:34]
B
Like, to me, it shows you're very insecure.
- [43:38]
A
Yeah. And I also don't buy that they have that much money when they talk about it like that.
- [43:43]
B
Agreed.
- [43:43]
A
So now you're signing up.
- [43:45]
B
Money talks, wealth whispers. Right?
- [43:47]
A
That's right. Marry for money. You'll pay every day for the rest of your life.
- [43:51]
B
All right, let's do another one. The person you're dating hangs out late at night for hours with an example and is out until 5am yeah, that's.
- [43:58]
A
A deal breaker for me.
- [44:01]
B
You think?
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A
Yeah. Hours with their ex till 5am 5am.
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B
Not like I wouldn't hang out with anyone till 5am if I'm hanging out with an ex until 5am it's a bad sign.
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A
So this is Laura and Jeremy from season six. Jeremy, who wears the flashy shirts and thinks that's a hilarious personality, goes and hangs out with his ex from the show until 5am Sarah Ann. Sarah Ann. And here's the issue. If you're in New York City, the bars close at 4. Where are you going with your ex until 5?
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B
Nowhere good. And also, if you're gonna be doing something bad, don't be so stupid as to have your location shared so that your current fiance can easily tell that.
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A
You'Re lying right to me. That guy wanted to get caught.
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B
Yeah.
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A
I mean, if you're sharing your location, what are you doing in that parking lot? Oh, just having an intimate conversation after about 10 drinks.
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B
He was asking to be broken up with.
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A
Right. Let's do another. They give their dog wine.
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B
This is probably about season one, Mark and Jessica, as we previously alluded to. It would depend on, like, the context, I think.
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A
Does it hurt the dog?
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B
I don't know. How much wine does the dog have to have to be? I don't know. I'm not really sure how much wine is allowed. It seems like poor dog parenting, which would be a turn off.
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A
Right. It's also under like the like. Especially considering Jessica, 34, Mark 24. It kind of goes into this, like, trope of like, you know, you know, single, 30 year old who's got her life is out of whack.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Like.
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B
Well, I mean, I do think that was like, oh, this woman's kind of falling apart.
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A
Right. This is very much like the lead in the rom com who came Get It Together.
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B
I agree with that.
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A
Right. So to me, it's like just a turnoff.
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B
Yeah. I mean, she's 34. She should know better.
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A
Right. Let's do one more.
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B
Okay. They flirt with another person in front of you, but didn't mean any harm by it.
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A
So this is in reference to Nick and Hannah and him kind of flirting with the woman he rode the duck with in the beach. And the woman who worked for was from Baltimore. What do. What do you think about this one?
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B
I think flirting is a very subjective term. You know, I think it felt more like flirting when he was doing it at the party at the party than it was in Mexico when he was riding the duck. And it did seem like sort of he's just being like a clown.
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A
Yeah.
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B
I think I'd be turned off that he's acting like a clown, but I don't think I would be like, jealous of the other person. And that's the whole thing. Like, so many of these fights are more about their insecurities as a whole rather than the actual incident. But I mean, the way this is written, they flirt with another person in front of you, but didn't mean any harm by it.
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A
Right.
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B
I think you've got to. It would have to be okay.
- [46:49]
A
I think you have to acknowledge that other people have feelings that you can't control and you may have made a mistake. If you can't do that, it's a deal breaker for me. If you can't. If you're Just like. Well, I'm just talking.
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B
Right.
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A
Annoys me.
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B
Some people are flirtier by nature. That's just, like, their kind of personality.
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A
You're also at a party with people you were on dates with. This isn't like, someone that you randomly saw them at the bar with. And it was just like, them saying, excuse me, can I go get. Get a drink around you? And they smile each other. Like history.
- [47:21]
B
Exactly.
- [47:21]
A
Yeah. It's a deal breaker for me.
- [47:23]
B
Well, this has been such a cool experience. I can't believe we're here. It feels so surreal. After five years of recapping Love is.
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A
Blind, it's a little too comfortable.
- [47:34]
B
Yeah. Right. I feel like I could do this now that I'm, like, settled in. I feel like.
- [47:38]
A
Could you do 10 days? Like, 10 days of dates in the pods? Could you do it?
- [47:43]
B
Could I do it? I think so. I think it would be. It would be pretty cool. I do think it might be harder to have, like, a marathon date without seeing the other person, though. I feel like it is a little tough to not get to, like, touch someone's knee that you're having a good vibe with.
- [48:00]
A
Right. But I do see how it could get deep.
- [48:03]
B
Right. Cause you can't do that. I guess you have to focus on the conversation.
- [48:07]
A
Right.
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B
But I can also see why you'd be more likely to propose because you're like, you can only talk about those things and you literally cannot think. You've. No. You're not going back to a job at night. There's nothing else for you to think about besides your feelings for this other person.
- [48:20]
A
Right. I agree. It's wild to be here. It's very cool to be here. Thank you again to Netflix for having us and partnering with us on this bonus episode of the podcast, season eight. The first six episodes are out every Friday. There's a new batch of episodes that are gonna come out. You gotta check out this season. Go check out Love is Blind, the new season. Season eight is out. Well, we solved dating again, Jordana.
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B
We'll be back when we're back.
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A
Whenever that is.
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B
Kate McAuliffe is our senior producer. Our editor is Emily Freed. Candice Menega is our senior social producer. Our associate producer is Will Maxim. Well, additional production help from Shannon Jimenez, Sason Betches.