Will Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sánchez's Relationship Survive 2026?

Summary

U Up? Podcast — Episode Summary

Episode Title: Will Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sánchez's Relationship Survive 2026?
Date: December 5, 2025
Hosts: Jordana Abraham & Jared Freid

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Episode Overview

This Friday Feels episode is dedicated to the "Betch of the Year Awards," where internet culture moments and celebrity "jump scare couples" from 2025 are dissected. Jordana and Jared, in their signature candid and comedic style, grade each famous pairing on longevity, dissect the dynamics, and forecast their chances of relationship survival. The central theme: Will Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sánchez’s relationship survive—plus, what makes modern celebrity pairings so fascinating (or, at times, terrifying)?

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Celebrating Milestones & Audience Connection

• The hosts chat about hitting 20,000 YouTube subscribers, setting fun challenges, and their admiration for the audience’s energy and intellect.
• Quote: “It’s like, you know, I have pride in the people who like this show. What a group of people that enjoy what we do here.” — Jared [09:04]

2. Betch of the Year Awards & “Jump Scare Couples” [06:41–08:33]

• Introducing the segment: examining the most surprising, meme-worthy celebrity couples that grabbed headlines in 2025.
• These couples are discussed for their shock factor, the internet’s reactions, and the likelihood of lasting love.

3. Deep Dive: Jeff Bezos & Lauren Sánchez [15:07–24:12]

Initial Reactions

• Jared: “The love story in a dystopian horror movie about capitalism. Oh, wait, it's real life.” [15:09]
• Jordana: “I think it makes sense as his second wife… She has big stepmom energy to me.” [15:22/15:28]

Wealth, Power, and Prenups

• Jared notes the inherent power dynamic in billionaire marriages and the likelihood of meticulous prenups. “When you marry a billionaire… the power dynamic is built in whether you like it or not.” [17:56]
• Discussion about what incentivizes Bezos to remarry: tax breaks, companionship, or emotional reasons?

“How Long Will They Last?” Predictions

• Jordana: “If you get married after 60, you should just have to stay until you die.” [16:33]
• Jared: Disagrees, noting: “When you’re a billionaire and you’re opting into the contract… he has all the best lawyers in town…” [17:34]
• Final bets: Jordana gives them 15 years, Jared says 10 (“I’ll do the prices right: I'll go lower.”) [21:15–21:25]

Relatability & Morality

• Jordana questions the morality that accompanies such vast wealth: "The sweetest man you've ever met is probably not a billionaire." [22:15]
• Both agree that massive wealth makes Bezos’ situation unrelatable for most.

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4. Other 2025 “Jump Scare” Couples

JoJo Siwa & Chris Hughes [24:13–27:34]

• Both admit minimal knowledge—and zero emotional investment.
• Jared: “JoJo Siwa produces a lot of emotions from a lot of emotional people… I don’t want to ruffle any feathers.” [25:29]
• Predict the relationship is likely fleeting; Jordana notes their significant age gap (22 vs. 32) as a red flag.

Sydney Sweeney & Scooter Braun [27:43–33:03]

• Highly staged “paparazzi” photos and “transactional” vibes.
• Jared’s take: “Sydney Sweeney seems her greatest love is money.” [28:53]
• Jordana empathetically explains Sweeney’s financial insecurities, noting how they drive her choices.
• Both agree the relationship is likely brief—Jared: “This is a season hookup.” [32:27]

Bill Belichick & Jordan Hudson [34:28–40:13]

• Jared admits disappointment given Belichick’s legacy: “It’s the fall of man. This is Shakespearean.” [35:30]
• Both see the pairing of the legendary, older coach with a young woman as “fraught” and “a trap for men to say horrible things about women.” [36:20]
• Discuss concerns about exploitation and reputation.
• Conclusion: “It doesn't feel like a wholesomeness to this… it all feels fraught.” — Jordana [40:11/40:13]

Katy Perry & Justin Trudeau [40:15–43:09]

• Both are approving and even rooting for this “rom com” pairing.
• Jared: “He’s a younger, good-looking former prime Minister. He’s with a pop star. This is a rom com.” [40:48]
• Jordana: “I think they're in it for the long haul… They're my vote for longest run of the couples.” [42:50/43:00]

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5. Listener Mailbag — “Which Dating Profile Pic Looks Most Like You?” [43:23–53:22]

• A listener asks for help interpreting a guy’s question about which of her profile photos most accurately represents her.
• Jared: “Women go from hamper monster to beautiful swan all in one day… Men, our spectrum is not wide.” [45:43]
• Both examine the psychology of online profiles and the desire for authenticity versus presentation.
• Conclusion: It’s not the most tactful question, but not deal-breaking either. Go on the date!

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On Lauren Sánchez’s “stepmom energy”:
  “She does look like the TikTok filter… her face is 2025.” — Jared [15:31/15:50]
• On billionaire divorce dynamics:
  “There’s such a thing as too poor to get divorced… when you’re a billionaire… you can pay someone to go away.” — Jared [17:06/17:45]
• On internet relevance:
  “Sydney Sweeney… she has a fear, probably, maybe similar to you, of, like, ‘I might be irrelevant soon and I need to make as much money as I possibly can…’” — Jordana [31:10]
• On the absurdity of age gaps in dating:
  “There are stories about people getting divorced at, like, late ages, and it’s like… they must have really hated [each other].” — Jared [23:04]
• On relationship predictions:
  “They’ll be done by 2027.” — Jordana, on Sydney Sweeney & Scooter Braun [32:18]
  “I think they're in it for the long haul.” — Jordana, on Katy Perry & Justin Trudeau [42:50]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 06:41 — Betch of the Year Awards/jump scare couples segment begins
• 15:07 — Jeff Bezos & Lauren Sánchez relationship deep dive
• 24:13 — JoJo Siwa & Chris Hughes
• 27:43 — Sydney Sweeney & Scooter Braun
• 34:28 — Bill Belichick & Jordan Hudson
• 40:15 — Katy Perry & Justin Trudeau
• 43:23 — Listener dating profile advice mailbag

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Closing Thoughts

With their trademark humor, Jordana and Jared expertly dissect internet-famous relationships while providing a reality check on celebrity culture, power, and the very human desire for security and recognition. In true U Up? style, the episode balances sharp observations ("She has big stepmom energy to me" – Jordana [15:28]), earnest advice, and a fearless, modern look at what drives relationships—whether millions are watching or not.

Vote for your "Betch of the Year" at betches.com!

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Note: Non-content segments, ads, and sponsor chats have been omitted for clarity.

Transcript

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Hello and welcome back to the Friday Feels episode of the UFO podcast. I'm Jordana Abraham.

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And I am Jared Freed. It's so good to be here with you, Jordana. A Friday Feels. We love the Friday episode. It really, you know, I gotta say, YouTube taking off. We have hit 20, 000 subs.

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How many times have you.

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I didn't know you're a big strip club guy.

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Not a big strip club guy.

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Did you go for lunch?

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Yeah, I go for coffee in the morning and hang out with the strippers and they tell me how great I am and then I go on my day. No, I, I, it is, it's a worthwhile sight for anyone, whatever you Would.

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They let you be a stripper?

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That I won't take that as an insult.

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I'll do it for us. And you can watch and commentate. Like, I think you can be on the side.

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I don't wanna. I don't wanna not let anyone else down. I don't want to fulfill an unfulfilled promise. If that was our promise of 20,000 subscriptions. Because we have bigger goals than 20,000.

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100,000.

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We want a hundred thousand. And we will have promise. We're gonna do a tour of your house.

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For 100,000?

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So you guys, can you explain batch of the year and what's going on here? And so I'm just a guy who walks in here and doesn't shut the up for it out.

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Batch of the year awards is honoring the meme worthy moments that temporarily united our divided attention and fueled our slack channels with some much needed non work related dribble to gossip about. So basically it's our version of these awards. We've got like viral moment of the year, a lot of like Internet based stuff but we're also talking about couples. We're talking about like people who killed it in all different areas of life this year.

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A way to look back at the year in Internet stuff.

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Yes.

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And be like, hey, you have been acknowledged.

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Yeah. The right. The viral memes, the, the astronomer thing, like the anything that was like a big.

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She's got to win.

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They've got to win the girl who vot. And you guys can vote. So.

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So we want you to go to the link in the description of this episode to vote for your betch of the year. For all the categories we are going to go through the jump scare couples. We're reviewing B of the year's category for jump scare couples of 2025. We're going to discuss our initial reactions to each couple, whether we think they're going to last and who we think is in it for real. So we're going to discuss these couples that have been. They are, they're 2025 couples. Will they last? Will they? Won't they? We will decide as the modern dating podcast whether these celebrity couples can make it through the tries and tribs of life.

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I'm gonna add in another prediction on our end. I want to give them, I want us to guess how long they will last. Oh and then we can look back next year and see if who's still together and it who's we're still in the running for.

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It's the dream, the beautiful thing. So if you're listening now, I am going to be in San Diego and Orlando to round out the year. I'm going to be. I've added Tempe, I've added Philadelphia in the new year. We've already sold out the first show. We're on to the second.

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When you go to New York, Dallas, New York, Toronto. New York is in February. We're already, like, moving our way through Town Hall. The second show will be added. Yeah, I mean, we sold out last time. Two shows at Town Hall. I'd love to get just two done. And yes, whatever. So. Jaredfree.com for tickets. Assemble the group chat. All right, Are you ready to play this game? Don't scare a couple.

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Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez. The love story in a dystopian horror movie about capitalism. Oh, wait, it's real life. How do you feel about Jeffrey Bezos and Lauren Sanchez?

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I think it. I think it makes sense as his second wife.

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I think she's second wife coded.

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Yes. She has big stepmom energy to me.

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Okay. Yes, I. Yeah, she. She does look like the. The Instagram filter. She looks like the TikTok filter of that a woman would put on instead of doing makeup. Like, it feels like her face is 2025.

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But if you have enough money, you can be the Instagram filter. You don't need the filter. You can make your. You don't. Filter is like a, you know, a knockoff.

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Right, the filter. Yeah, it's wearing the fake Prada purse.

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Yes. Yeah, she's got the real. She's got enough money for the surgeries to make it look like the real thing. Do you think they make it forever? No, I give them. They've been together a bit. How long have they been dating?

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So 2019. Now they're dating. Five years they get married, or six years they're married. So how long do you think they get married for? How long do you think they stay married?

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You know? And how old is Jeff Bezos?

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Okay, 61. So that means he has, let's call it 30 years left on the planet.

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Yeah. I think if you get married after 60, you should just have to stay until you die.

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Have to?

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I think so. I mean, like, at what point. I mean, he's to. To get divorced with a league. He got married. He decided to get married. Legal contract binding him to someone. The r. One of the richest men in the entire world. Divorce seems like such a pain in the ass. I mean, maybe not because you have so much money that you can throw at the divorce, but I just feel like if you decided to get married again at 60, you should know everything there is to know about life at 60. Make the wrong choice. You just got to stay till you die.

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It's funny.

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You won't be that long.

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That's the reason I.

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Really.

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He is. There's such a thing as too poor to get divorced.

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Of course.

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So there's people that are in. That are listening right now in marriages saying, I cannot get divorced. It would put too expensive. Too expensive.

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Yeah.

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When you're a billionaire and you're opting into the contract to me, he has all the best lawyers in town where he's like, here's the deal. When you marry a billionaire, so pay.

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Someone to go away.

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Right. When you marry a billionaire, the. It is tough to get around the. The hierarchy. The. What's it called? I'm looking for a word.

The power dynamic. The power dynamic is built in whether you like it or not. I don't care how hot you are and what you do in bed.

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It's a million hot people.

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There's a lot of hot people who do that same exact thing for probably less money than getting married to you. So he is looking at you, Lauren Sanchez. And this isn't to say she's not a smart woman or a great woman. This is kind of the unfairness. Right? This is the unfairness of income inequality. He puts a contract in front of her and says, if you want to marry me, you agree to these terms. That's not to say they're unfair terms. It might be. This makes you a 50 millionaire forever. So you're not a billionaire.

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Right.

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But you're going to be if we end. If I decide it's over. Here's your 50 mil. That is interest I make in a day.

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Right.

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To go away.

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Seems like a good deal. So for him, everyone involved.

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Right. For everyone involved. Like, he makes it good enough for her to not care that this is kind of a. Like, this is kind of. And again, I don't know that this happened, but I'm just. This is my opinion of what's gone on.

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Okay.

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That he's like, here's the deal. You marry me, here's how I get out. Here's what you know, here's how to get in, here's how I get out. You're with me, you're a billionaire, you're without me. You walk away with this.

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Right.

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And it's really easy for me to do.

[A]

Can I ask, what do you think is the incentive for him to even get married at 61, not having any more kids?

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I don't know. I don't. I actually don't understand. It's more for her.

[A]

Right.

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So he has to really care about her.

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Yeah.

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One, that's good. Which is good.

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Yeah.

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Because for him, right.

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What's the upside?

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Like, if I'm him, they could just.

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Live together and he could just.

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Again, he's rich enough to afford this. He doesn't need the marriage tax breaks.

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Yes, she wants that. Maybe. She probably wants the security.

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This is one of those things where you go.

What, I gotta meet her. I gotta know what he's.

[A]

What's the secret sauce?

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What is he intoxicated by?

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I mean, he's just a man at the end of the day. Right.

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Well, there's also. He's just a man also there.

[A]

He might be probably a nerd.

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Huge nerd. Let's look at. Let's look at all the. I. The.

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The. The.

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Let's look at all the options. He's in love with her.

[A]

Okay, that's gross. Yeah.

[B]

We sit here. Highly unlikely, right? Okay, that's likely.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

He's in love with her.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So he wants to make her happy. He wants to be happy. He likes being married. Let's be married.

[A]

Yeah. I could see him liking being married.

[B]

Totally.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

Two, they have an arrangement where he can be married to her, and he has all the lovelies of marriage, but also she understands the deal that he.

[A]

Kind of in charge here.

[B]

Is in charge. And he can, you know, have his. Whatever mistresses and business dealings. Whatever he wants to do goes. Sure, that's possible, too. Then the third option is what might.

[A]

Be just one of those Two, I guess, right? Yeah. But I mean, he is. My feeling is like. And I. I think this, this makes less sense for men almost because, you see, I guess men who get married all. And he hasn't been married that many times is his second marriage.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So I think they could be married.

I don't think it's gonna be forever. I give it 15 years.

[B]

I think they're married 10 years. I'll do the prices, right? I'll go lower.

[A]

You go lower?

[B]

Yeah, I think it's 10 years and he's gonna. They're gonna have kids.

[A]

She's like, how old is she old to have kids?

[B]

I think maybe that's why they're good.

[A]

She's 55.

[B]

Well, they do have a lot of money.

[A]

I mean, I guess if they really wanted a kid, they could have it. I don't think that.

[B]

So maybe they're no kids.

[A]

Right? She already. She has kids. He has. She already has kids. He already has kids. I don't know that they're like.

[B]

I guess I'm the. More. Listen, we're operating in a world where just because he has a lot of money means he's evil and not relatable.

[A]

Right? I mean, he's probably evil. They can't have that much money. How do you. How do you get to have that much money? Like a little evil? Like a little. Just a little. Right.

[B]

I don't know. I guess you'd have to be a little. I don't know, a little bit.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

What? Well, you have to turn an eye to, like, how much you're paying people to.

[A]

That's what I'm saying. There's like, you know, I don't know if he's like, like.

Like.

Extreme evil, but there. You're probably not like the sweetest person. The sweetest man you've ever met is probably not a billionaire. The third richest man in the world.

[B]

Right. I don't know. Anyway, such an unrelatable amount of money that you can't relate to why he would get married. Like.

[A]

Right.

[B]

But I also.

[A]

I don't know how to disagree with you.

[B]

To me, there's no risk.

[A]

Okay?

[B]

Like, he has no risk in his life. This is why a rich kid starting a business is annoying. Even if it's a business outside of.

[A]

Right. They have nothing to lose.

[B]

Nothing to lose. They have more chances. Swings to take.

[A]

Well, let me ask you a question. How old would you have to be where like, you wanted to get divorced, but you were just like, it. It's like I'm already. It's. I'm already.

[B]

I'm already.

[A]

I don't want to spend the last however long of my life getting divorced.

[B]

There are stories because I live close to my parents and kind of, like, now hanging out with them. And older people. You hear these stories about, like, people getting divorced at, like, late ages, and it's like, what they must have really hated.

[A]

That's what I'm saying. Like, the older you are, the more you'd have to be like.

[B]

But it is.

[A]

How much time do we have left here? We're gonna change everything.

[B]

But if you're miserable every day.

[A]

Right. But, like, why would you start being miserable at 80 with the person?

[B]

Right? I guess you're used to this pain.

[A]

Is there an age where you're probably. You're like.

[B]

I'd like to think at, like, 60. I'm like, right.

[A]

Well, that's why I said he's 61. Maybe he's. Sure. I think if I got to, like, 75, it wouldn't be worth the hassle.

75.

[B]

70. You're getting a divorce.

[A]

Maybe. Yeah.

[B]

It's wild.

[A]

70. I mean, it's. I could live to 100. It's 40 years. I mean, 40 years spending.

[B]

What, are you gonna fight? You're gonna be out dating? I guess.

[A]

So maybe go on the Golden Bachelor.

[B]

You could, right? It's all right. Let's do another one.

[A]

All right.

[B]

Jojo Siwa and Chris Hughes, sometimes gay pop icons find their prince charming on Celebrity Big Brother uk.

[A]

Okay, I will say candidly, I don't know much about JoJo Siwa, and I know even less about Chris Hughes.

[B]

So I'm with you. And sometimes I like to just say what I know.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And so that we can, like, talk about this, like, to show, like, you know, where I am on the jojo Siwa of it all.

[A]

Sure. On the scale. Right?

[B]

On the scale. I just know jojo Siwa as former.

Toddlers and tiara dance moms. Is it dance mom?

[A]

I think it's.

[B]

I think it's dance mom, former dance mom's kid, who then becomes this child star who then has a public. A public back and forth of what their sexuality might be, then goes on. This show meets Chris Hughes, who I have no anything, no knowledge of. And the story became that JoJo Siwa is now not sexually oriented in one way, and now she's sexually oriented in another way.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

This is all while knowing that JoJo Siwa produces a lot of emotions from a lot of emotional people.

[A]

She's Polarizing.

[B]

She's polarized people.

[A]

She have big fans.

[B]

She has an audience that. From the tiktoks that come up on my feed.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Seemingly love and hate her.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

When I see that she is a. Stay away from me.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Like, I don't even want to talk about her. I'm gonna be almost a liar when it comes to anything JoJo Siwa related. I'm gonna be so nice that it's as if I'm dealing with someone that I think less of.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Do you know what I mean? Like, you know when you're like, hi, Right. Good to see you.

[A]

You're not trying to ruffle any feathers.

[B]

I don't want to ruffle any feathers. And maybe even saying this is ruffling feathers because I'm saying that her audience is so intense. Well, she's intense and she's so intense. And it's someone dealing with their sexuality in the public eye where I'm like, I don't want to give an opinion on this. Like, and it seems that she has been, you know, she's leading the parade one week and then she's dating Chris Hughes the next week. And it's like, maybe. And no one in this audience seems to find. Come to the conclusion that maybe these celebrities are not worth, you know, dealing with the greater problems of the world and these subjects.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Like, maybe they shouldn't lead the discussion.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, that's what I think of when.

[A]

I think I agree. I think that's also like why I haven't fully tuned into this story.

[B]

I think there's an age and I'm, I think I'm saying that where you. I think you're probably saying the same thing as me.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

There's an age where you go, I've heard things. I don't care enough. I don't want to even say the wrong.

[A]

No opinion.

[B]

I'm out.

[A]

Yes. Yeah. I mean, but they do have a 10 year age gap, 22 versus 32, which seems a little, a little too large for me.

[B]

They might be broken up by the time this comes out.

[A]

That's possible. Yes. I would say, given the erratic nature of the, of the little I know about her life doesn't feel like it's going to be super. We're going to see them together in 2027 again.

[B]

To go back to Jojo Siwa. I wish her the best. I hope everything. I hope her life goes well. I hope she finds her way.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Sydney Sweeney and Scooter Braun. So a tale of two Hollywood villains who Found each other and maximize their joint nefarious vibes. How do you feel about this one?

[A]

I'm not sure. Like, what the hell is going on with them? Did you see those pictures of them, like, making out in Central park, which seemed very staged.

[B]

No, I don't. Sydney Sweeney. I don't trust anything going on around her.

[A]

Do you just Scooter Braun.

[B]

Scooter Braun I have no feel for. I just know that he's a record executive. So there are the pictures.

[A]

Like, what two celebrities are.

[B]

Just sit.

[A]

Would take a picture. There's, like, few of them like that. And they're like, canoodling on a rock in Central Park. No one is doing that.

[B]

Not just celebrities. I'm never sitting on a rock ever again.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Like, that is. That is playground. I. I would look too fat sitting on that rock. That is not a hot look for me. If a woman I'm with was like, hey, let's sit on that rock, I'd be like, no, let's go to a.

[A]

Restaurant in Central Park.

[B]

Yeah. No, I'm out.

[A]

Well, they're doing that to be, like, seen and photographed, which makes the relationship even weirder because there's no way you don't know well exactly what you're doing.

[B]

Sydney Sweeney seems her greatest love is money.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

It seems that. That she cares only about making money, which.

[A]

Fine, respect. We live in a capitalist society.

[B]

Good for her. But it seems that she makes her money based on the churn of social media. She likes eliciting a response. She likes a fight in the comments.

[A]

She either likes it or is indifferent to it.

[B]

I think she likes that she makes money from it. I think she believes that argument about Sydney Sweeney means Sydney Sweeney makes more money. So the whole, like, jeans thing, like, where she has good jeans and it turns into. Is this a neo Nazi conversation?

[A]

Right.

[B]

Okay. To me, that was a little overblown. I don't think when someone says I have good genes, they are saying that they are the more evolved race. Like, it is something that gets. Has been said forever. Like, the jeans thing of, like, they've got good genes has been said without the connotation.

[A]

Talked about it with your hair.

[B]

Exactly. I don't think anyone's. I hope no one's thinking that. I think that I'm somehow above others. Right. It's crazy.

[A]

Right?

[B]

I think she did that campaign not knowing that that would be the response, and then saw the response and went, great, Good.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

She knew she was gonna make more money saying nothing on it.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Than she was coming out with an opinion.

[A]

Well, Sydney Swoony, who grew up, I would say, on the poorer side. Not poor, but, like, not wealthy at all.

[B]

From Spokane, Washington, I have been.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Jared Dozer.

[B]

I know. She's also.

Hot.

[A]

Sure. She's very guy hot.

[B]

She's so guy hot, she makes me drool.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

She doesn't make me dresses in a way to make me drool.

[A]

She. She has. She has a large sex appeal. She's not like that to me as a woman. She's not like, I don't. I get the male appeal.

[B]

I don't think Jessica Rabbit.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

She's an older man would go, voom.

[A]

I actually think she's, like, a pretty good actress too. So I like, I'm a. I'm a fan of her, of her work, but I know that she's very, like, money insecure and. And I think that's not about how much money you have. It's a state of mind.

[B]

Totally agree.

[A]

And so I agree. I think that she has a fear, probably, maybe similar to you, of like, I might be irrelevant soon and I need to make as much money as I possibly can. You have that fear.

[B]

Hilarious.

[A]

I think in her mind, she's like, I gotta, like, hit it while it's hot. And I'm gonna, like, do every opportunity presented to me. And I'm gonna. If Scoot dating Scooter Braun is gonna up my profile, I'm gonna, like, do whatever I need to do to get to the top and stay here as long as I can and make as much money as I possibly can. Because it could all be gone tomorrow.

[B]

You could not be more. Right. And she knows Scooter Braun is a guy who is automatically divisive.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

He's got the Taylor Swift thing worked into him. So Scooter Braun is a living, breathing argument in the comments. So to your point, Sydney Sweeney, who am I going to date? Guy I love or guy who will make the commenters angry and make me more money? I think she goes that way.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

How long do they have left? They're definitely breaking up.

[A]

Yes. They'll be done by 2027.

[B]

So you give them a year.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I think spring. I think this will go six months. This is a season hookup.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

So springtime around St. Patrick's Day, these two will be.

[A]

So you give them another three or four.

[B]

Whenever. Well, actually, let me. Let me. Actually, let me change my opinion. She has a movie coming out called Carrie or Christie.

[A]

I think it's out.

[B]

So the movie's out. It's not doing well. Okay, whatever. What's her next movie coming out?

[A]

Apparently she had four movies out this year that all have not done that well.

[B]

They all didn't do well. But she's also executive producer on all of them.

[A]

Right?

[B]

So she has a cameo in Devil Wars Product two. She'll have a new boyfriend for the for the PR tour for that movie.

[A]

So you give her till she think they'll be done by by Q2.

[B]

Yes.

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A disco, snow globe, throw pillows and PJs for the whole family, dog included. At Ross, holiday magic isn't about spending more. It's about giving more for less. Ross, work your magic. Let's do another one. Jordan Hudson and Bill Belichick. This is a tough one for me.

[A]

Why?

[B]

You know this, right?

[A]

Is it? It's tough.

[B]

Well, because Bill Belichick is the coach of my. The team of my youth.

[A]

Patriots.

[B]

The Patriots run.

[A]

He's still the coach.

[B]

No.

[A]

Okay. Bill.

[B]

Bill Belichick was the patriots coach from 2000, from the year 2000 until, you know, 2020 something. So. But he was the coach for their, their dynasty. The dynasty that I have a lot of personal memories from. And to me he's the greatest coach of all time when it comes to football. And then he starts dating Jordan Hudson, who is this 24 year old former cheerleader that he met on a flight in kind of if you look into it too much, it's kind of like a very weird story, isn't There like.

[A]

An escort rumor or something. I don't know.

[B]

I don't know what's true.

[A]

I.

[B]

Listen, it's. At some point, all your heroes become Right. Weird.

[A]

So you're upset about this.

[B]

It's upsetting to see. It's the fall of man. This is Shakespearean.

[A]

This is so no manner. No. Men are looking at this and being like, good for Bill Belichick.

[B]

No, they're not. No, no, no, no, no, no. Really, we're past that.

[A]

That. Okay.

[B]

If I saw Bill Belichick show up to a party with her and it was just some random chick, I go, oh, whoa. Good for him.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

If I found out he was dating her, I'd be like, whoa. Really?

[A]

Okay, so men are not. Men are not.

[B]

Men are not. No, there's no man supporting this.

[A]

Okay, I will.

[B]

Supporting. There's no man. That's, like, good for you, Bill. Unless they're making money from Bill.

[A]

Right?

[B]

Like, Yeah.

[A]

I mean, 24 is very young, and her vibe also feels like there's something sinister.

[B]

I'm happy you're saying that. Not me, because Bill Bellich and Jordan Hudson, it's almost like it's a. A trap for men to say horrible things about women. Because the way she is is very. And I see what you see, but it would sound a little bit worse for me.

[A]

I mean, I think we have, like, a raw material of that in that interview where she's, like, kind of telling him what to talk about or something like that. It feels a little bit like elder abusey not to get. Not to take any credit away from him and his mental facilities. But, like, I mean, you're taking credit away from her. There is a little bit of an element of, like, I think as women, especially my age, we think, like, what if my dad could be taken for a ride by a young woman?

[B]

Like, I think men my age. What if I could be taken for a ride?

[A]

Right?

[B]

Like, this is like, when. When.

[A]

When.

[B]

When women talk about dating and they're like, our biggest fear is murder. That is something I totally understand. I totally agree with. When men are fearful of, like, how they could be messed with. This is more in line.

[A]

Just be seduced by.

[B]

Totally seduced. Totally have nowhere with all to say I can't. He's set her up with money. Like, he put real estate in her name. Like, it's almost like a professional sugar daddy. Like, the.

[A]

That's what I'm saying. Like, but it. Maybe. But if it's mutual, if he's, like, knows what's going On. But do you lose, like, respect for him a little bit?

[B]

Of course I do.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You go. Sometimes you just got to get older.

[A]

Like, Right.

[B]

You got to grow up and like, I'm sitting here single. No. Not married. Someone could look at my life and be like, Jared's a little embarrassing. Like, you're single still. You could, you could have a girlfriend. And it's the same thing for him where it's like, you could have like.

[A]

A normal age appro. Hot, age appropriate girlfriend.

[B]

Right. There's a million beautiful women and you don't have to like, put yourself at risk like this. Like, you're dealing with someone who seemingly is. Has her hand on the button of a tik tok that's going to tell everyone all his little secrets.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, it's hard to feel bad for him when you're like.

[B]

Well, that's the other thing.

[A]

He.

[B]

He also over his career was famously not great to the media.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

He was famously tough to deal with.

[A]

Now we're getting. They're getting a revenge.

[B]

This is like. So he has a lot of friends.

[A]

Did you see those pictures of her dressed as the mermaid? And he's like, in the photo, it's crazy.

[B]

Like, how about him doing yoga on the beach with her on his feet?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Like, he's holding her up with his feet. And you're like, I was like, he's my dad's age. Like, I can't imagine my dad holding a woman up with a. Like, I feel bad for the kids.

[A]

I'm trying to think if I was.

If I was his ex wife, would I be. Would I be. Would I be like, loving this or hating this?

[B]

Is there a form of embarrassment you have when someone you date dates someone new? That is kind of just a joke.

[A]

Probably. Yeah. I think it takes away from like whatever you had. Probably.

[B]

Especially they have kids and this goes always all genders. Like, if I was dating someone and they suddenly we're dating like, you know, the. Like just like the situation.

[A]

Right. Yeah.

[B]

That's the only I feel bad, I'm sorry situation.

[A]

I mean, maybe the four.

[B]

The.

[A]

Especially the former version of the situation.

[B]

Right.

[A]

He's like a little more reformed now. Okay. Yeah, No, I agree. But it's like, it's also. It's also tough when they're dating, like the perfect person. So.

[B]

Right. There's no win here.

[A]

Yeah. You just want someone slightly worse in all than you in all ways.

[B]

Do you think they stay together?

[A]

I mean, she seems good. I don't know from her angle.

[B]

Do you think, like, is there such a thing? Like, could this just be her type?

[A]

I don't know. I don't know what her dating history is. I think. Didn't she meet him in College?

[B]

She's 24. I mean, I don't know what history you could have with men this age.

[A]

I just, I don't think there's a. It doesn't feel like a wholesomeness to this. I think it.

[B]

Yeah, it all feels fraught.

[A]

Yeah. All right, let's move on.

[B]

Let's do another one. Katy Perry and Justin Trudeau. Former Prime Minister of Canada Justin Trudeau with pop star Katy Perry.

[A]

Yeah. I kind of like them together. Personally, I'm into it.

[B]

I'm into it, too. Here's where, like, here's how divisive politics are right now. Like, there are people that just, like, they see Justin Trudeau and they're like, they can't just look at this as like kind of a wild thing. Like, he's a younger, good looking former prime Minister.

[A]

Right.

[B]

He's with a pop star. This is a rom com. Like. And there are some people that cannot get beyond whatever policy. I don't even know what his politics are. I think he's on the left of whatever Canada is. Whatever.

[A]

I agree. I'm not like that invested in Canadian politics. I'm sorry. Everyone hates me because I don't know anything about Canada.

Anyway.

[B]

All I think a loon flies in the air and wherever it lands is what they do for laws.

[A]

I have the same. I have the same vibe as you towards him. He seems like on the more liberal side.

[B]

I think whatever he is, it doesn't matter to me. I think you can separate. Some people can't. But I can separate this story just being kind of like, understandable because you go like, from both sides. Katy Perry, if you're Katy Perry, hey, the former Prime Minister of Canada has been like, asking about you. You're interested?

[A]

Yeah. Especially coming right off your divorce.

[B]

Right?

[A]

Why not? You go, oh, I think they make sense.

[B]

Right.

[A]

I'm into it. And I also, like, think when you. I see the pictures of them out in public, like, he seems thrilled to be with her.

[B]

That's the other thing. If you're going into politics, you do fame seek a little bit, but in a different way.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

I mean, just to go into politics, you have to want.

[A]

He's already been in politics.

[B]

Right. So now he's in his retirement tour. He's going to write a book. I'm sure he's going to get A ton of money for that. And he gets to, like, make speeches around Canada for whatever money he's going to make, he's going to be okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then you find out Katy Perry's into it and you go, what? You're going to do it?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And like all of this, I can understand how both of them would be equally excited to date the other. And that kind of sometimes is all you need to start what could be a long relationship.

[A]

I agree. And he's. Yeah. They seem like into each other. He seems like body language, like, thrilled to be seen out with her.

[B]

Well, politicians are nerds.

[A]

Yeah. You know what I give them? I think they're in it for the long haul.

[B]

Wow. Yeah. I think they get married forever.

[A]

I think they get married. Yeah.

[B]

I think they get married too. I'm with you.

[A]

They're my. They're. They're my vote for long. They're gonna be the longest run of the.

[B]

I'll join you. I'll. I'll back up your opinion.

[A]

I'm rooting for them more than any of these other couples.

[B]

Be sure to go to betches.com vote for batch of the year. There's a lot of different categories. This is so much fun to do every year. You can see who wins. So go to batches.com and make sure you vote for batch of the year. Are you ready to give some advice?

[A]

Let's do it.

[B]

J and J, thanks for being arbiters of taste in the dating world. I have a question for the pod. I really like this question. I matched with a guy on hinge and we had a phone call as a date zero. We actually talked for over an hour. Before we signed off. He said he had a closing question. Which one of my photos do I look like most often? He quickly added a. Obviously you look pretty in all of them. What? I have a mix of party photos, pro photo shoot, and more daily makeup photos on my profile. What did he really want to know? Isn't it a given that people look different at parties compared to when they're running errands? Aren't I being more honest by having a variety of photos? Can I attach a screenshot of my profile for you guys to verify I'm not being abnormal? I'm 26 female. This guy's 34 male. If that makes a difference. I'm not out here trying to catfish people. I'm writing in because I'm slightly insulted. Lol. Signed A. Not catfish batch. Okay, now we have her profile.

[A]

Very important for the discussion.

[B]

It's the most important part of this email.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

But I do find the email very interesting.

[A]

Have you ever thought this about a profile that you've seen? Like, I'm not sure which of these looks most accurately depicts your day to day.

[B]

This is a way more relatable thing than ugly person showed up to the date. Like, this is way more relatable than being catfished. Because I do believe people are generally putting up pictures of themselves that they feel represents them. And if they're 10 different than on the date, you're still not like, wildly like, you know, this conversation gets mired in the extremes. I think this is way more of a like thing that happens every time where you get five pictures and four of them are from a wedding and then one with friends and you're like, well, where's the human in this? And women, specifically men.

Are. Our spectrum is not wide. Our spectrum. The way I look right now on camera is pretty close to how I look when I wake up is pretty close to how I look at a wedding.

[A]

Yeah. Not the same for no.

[B]

Women go from hamper monster to beautiful.

[A]

Swan all in one day.

[B]

In one day. And they love doing it. Yeah, they love. That's why those transition videos of going from the before my makeup to how I do my makeup to this look I'm going for. There's also tick tock trends where they're like, I'm gonna look like a Boston 10, or I'm gonna look like a Canadian 10. They do this all the time where. And I see them and I watch all of them there.

[A]

That is a nice, refreshing part about dating. Men is kind of like what you see is what you get. It's not really gonna vary that much. Like, men don't really generally have like good and bad hair days or makeup. No makeup. Like, there's less. I think you look like this every single time I see you, no matter where you are.

[B]

Well, I did blow dry my hair.

[A]

Well, that's why it's kind of exciting. To see a man in a tux is kind of like the only time you really get like a full different.

Feel. Like, I like my. When Mike's in a tux, I'm like, this is like hot look. It's just like every other look is so. Is like so similar to the other look.

[B]

Right. That's fair.

[A]

I.

[B]

But so when you look at her profile that we have in front of us, I don't know if we're allowed to post it.

[A]

We are.

[B]

We're gonna post it so she Says we can post it. It is. If you're listening, you can go turn on YouTube. You can go see. Do you think that it would be tough? Well, let me also say. Can I also. Can two things be true at the same time? Yes, it is true that this question is stupid from him.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Like, I think, like, which picture best represents you? Dude, say less.

[A]

Right. We know what you mean.

[B]

Like, you're saying, like, there's.

[A]

But I also understand the question.

[B]

I do, too. Based on her profile, I would have a.

[A]

If a man. Again, you would never see a man's profile with this much, like, diversity of types of pictures.

[B]

Right.

[A]

But if I did, I would. I probably would wonder the same thing. Or if I'm like, if I was thinking about someone I was gonna meet, I would wonder which version of that person I was gonna meet.

[B]

Right. In the first picture, the lighting is, like.

[A]

The first picture is, like, sexy.

[B]

Sexy. And also, you would never be in a room that looks like that unless you were in a sauna or, like, a club. Right. So that's not really an accurate representation of her. The second picture, where she's in front of the painting.

[A]

Can't see her face.

[B]

Can't see her. The third picture, which is more au natural with the glasses on. Does she wear glasses? Does she not wear glasses? Like, I don't think you need this information to go on the date, though. That's my problem.

[A]

I agree. I don't think it's, like, I could see why he would be thinking it, like, which version am I gonna get?

The. The fourth picture is sort of, like, in between, I would say. Seems like a mix.

[B]

Totally. And she has blonder hair.

Yes, seemingly. Because if I look at the third picture, her hair is a little bit blond, but we're seeing, like, the under.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Tones. But I. I would say she looks more blonde in that one.

[A]

Yes. And then the fifth picture is. Look. She's, like, basically in a photo shoot. Looks. Looks like she's wearing. She's in some, like, traditional Asian attire.

[B]

Right. And. And that's, like, not her hair.

[A]

I don't think so.

[B]

Right. So it looks.

[A]

It looks different than the rest of her hair.

[B]

Right. So.

[A]

And the makeup looks very different than the rest of the makeup.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Which I get is, like, part of the look of what she's doing. But I. I get what. I could understand why a man would think this.

[B]

Right. I don't. From my perspective, I look at this. I don't need more information than these pictures to go on a date.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

But I would be befuddled as to what I'm gonna have show up.

[A]

I think my question would almost be, like, more, which one is your personality? Because they do seem like. I think the personality of the first picture and the third picture seem like I'm getting. But I guess he spoke to her on the phone for an hour.

[B]

Right.

[A]

I think he should probably get a better sense of, like, which one more accurately represents her vibe. Is she, like, a little more bookish, intellectual, or, like, sexy club girl?

[B]

Right. And I do understand why she's offended a little bit, because it's basically him trying to give her a review of her profile. Like, it's like, just need to know what you're doing.

[A]

Funny to know. Like, you've got, like, a lot of. A little too much going on.

[B]

Right. And it's like, that's not up to him to say. Like, if you have a problem with how varied these pictures are, then move the on.

[A]

Right. But if it bothered you enough or I think it's something you could bring up on, like, a fifth date. I think I was like. If I was. If I was, like, dating someone, I'd be like. I have to say, when I saw your profile, I wasn't sure which.

[B]

Who was gonna.

[A]

Which version of you was gonna show up.

[B]

I have that. People say that to me with dates.

[A]

Yeah. I don't think that's insulting. Once you already, like, know them. It's like, a little critique. It's a little bit of a critique, but it's also, like, not that offensive.

[B]

Right. This is. I can. This was basically her hearing us do a dating app makeover she didn't ask for, and now she's asking for it, and we're telling her, yeah, we don't know who you are. Based on these pictures. It's like five different personalities. Because they're five different pictures of five of the same person doing, you know, different. You know, like, you know, doing the different versions of. Of emotions.

[A]

Right.

[B]

You know, so take that for what it's worth. I don't know if that's like, us saying, change the profile because she looks good in it. It does show a varying.

[A]

Like, we do suggest varying, like, locations and looks, which she's done. So I can understand why she'd be like, I did not. I've done that. I put myself in, like, very. You can see me. And this is. This is going out me. This is go. This is, you know, like, every. I would imagine the everyday look is closer to the woman with the glasses.

[B]

Right. But the everyday look I would imagine. I will say this. She has no picture of what she would look like on a date.

[A]

I think that's the bottom one. The blondish one looks like the closest.

[B]

She looks like she's in a dress at a wedding.

[A]

Right. She might be on a dress, or it could just be a nice top.

[B]

Okay, well, maybe. I don't know.

[A]

Let me ask you from this guy's perspective, because you're always, like, for men. You're either, like. It's kind of like a binary thing. You're, like, attracted or you're not attracted.

[B]

That's why I don't get his question.

[A]

That's why you think it's a stupid question?

[B]

I think it's a stupid question. I think he's talking himself out of a date. Like, okay, like, it's like, it. It's him being annoying.

[A]

Right? Like, does the date hinge on which one?

[B]

She says no.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Like, what's she gonna say? Well, I wear glasses.

[A]

Yeah. I could see this being something you kind of, like, say on the phone because it just came out. As opposed to, like, it's almost more offensive over text, where you had to think about it.

[B]

Right.

[A]

But if you're, like, in conversation and maybe you're commenting on the other person's profile, I could see maybe that coming up at the end being, like, if you were thinking that, like, oh, which. Which one do you look like most often? I can see that being something you would just say because you were talking about the profile. And I don't think it's as offensive as before the date. A text that you clearly thought about that you need the answer to.

[B]

Right? Yeah.

[A]

It gets to me. An offhand on the phone. You can get more offhand comments than you can in texts.

[B]

Totally agree. I. That's a very important distinction as far as, like, should she not go out with this guy, you should go out with them?

[A]

I think so.

[B]

Yeah. I think he said so.

[A]

You already committed an hour on the phone, right?

[B]

I couldn't. Zero.

[A]

I couldn't spend an hour on the phone with someone I wasn't, like, didn't have a good personality. Mesh with. To.

[B]

More to your point, these are the things you say after an hour on the phone was on that you've never met. You're kind of, like, looking for topics, right? This topic, like, yeah, I've seen. Yeah.

[A]

I could see him also, like, hanging up from that conversation, being like, maybe I shouldn't have said that.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Well, we solved dating again.

[A]

We did it. We'll be back next week. Boom. Bye.

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