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How Shawn Bolz and his victims sent me down the rabbit hole to find generations of fakery, abuse, lies, and Cover-up Culture. Tons of evidence, tons of names. Light will shine. 0:00 Intro (I didn’t want to make this video)6:24 Going down the rabbit hole25:29 How Shawn was created1:00:52 The Evidence Shawn Faked it1:40:51 Three of Shawn’s former employees told me what he did to them2:08:14 Bethel lied to us3:14:13 The saga of Bob and Sally3:41:13 The “Trigger Video” (December 2023)3:51:25 Bethel finally responds. It’s not good.4:23:13 What I think is going on in the movement4:47:51 If you want to destroy my sweater…5:01:39 Skeletons in Bethel’s closet5:39:34 My call for extreme action from Charismatic leaders5:44:32 I couldn’t end it there My video on Bob Hartley and Bethel (his son speaks out): Click Here My video with Elijah Stephens is an in-depth, evidence filled appeal for change in the Charismatic church: Click Here My video on everything the Bible teaches about divorce and remarriage: Click Here My website: https://BibleThinker.org

Bethel knew and didn't warn... I believe that Bob Hartley is one of the key threads running through the past 40 years of the Charismatic church (Bethel, IHOPKC, Morningstar, etc.). If we pull on that thread, we will see the truth that there is a long-standing Cover-up Culture in the movement and some of the biggest names have participated in it. In this video, I interview the son of Bob Hartley, Jedidiah, who exposes his father's fake prophecy grift and how Bob used it to prey upon women. I also interview Michelle Seidler and let her talk about multiple witnesses that have come forward. The reason Jedidiah has gone forward, as well as Michelle, is because Bethel leadership didn't do the right thing years ago. From all appearances their actions are consistent with Cover-up Culture and self-protection. But it is the job of the leaders to protect the people, not themselves. 0:00 Intro: This is a big deal3:05 Bob's son, Jedidiah Hartley, interview 1:21:35 Michelle Seidler interview about multiple victims My website: https://BibleThinker.org

Taking questions from the live chat after I answer the first one! Today's Time Stamps: 0:00 - Intro1. 0:19 {Interracial Marriage: Biblical?} Are mixed-race or interracial marriages biblically permissible? 2. 19:09 {Evangelism: Relationships Required?} I've been told that you should build a relationship with someone before sharing the Gospel with them. Thoughts?3. 22:12 {Others’ Consciences: Our Responsibility?} Are we responsible if someone is emboldened to disobey his conscience because of something we posted online (Romans 14)? I wish to show games I like on my channel, but I’m afraid they may convict a brother.4. 35:18 {Are “Titles” Biblical?} Is calling people by a church title, like Pastor, biblical? Nowhere in Scripture is anyone referred to by anything other than their first name, and Matthew 23:7-12 seems to forbid it.5. 44:23 {Scriptural Coincidences?} Abram's father, Terah set out for Canaan, but stopped in Harran, where he died. Later, God calls Abraham to Canaan. How do I know if something like this is a coincidence or meaningful?6. 45:58 {Should Abortion be Prosecuted?} Do you think it's biblical that women who have abortions should be legally judged the same way as someone who commits murder?7. 51:50 {Balancing Ambition & Contentment} As a Christian, how do you balance ambition and contentment?8. 54:29 {James: Works Based Salvation?} In Galatians, Paul says Jews from the sect of James were Judaizers. If the book of James was written before the Acts 15 council, do you think James in his book taught a works-based salvation?9. 1:00:40 {Why No Marriage in Heaven?} Jesus clearly says there is no marriage in Heaven. But God established pre-fall that it is not good for man to be alone and He gave Eve to Adam despite Adam being in communion with God in the garden. Thoughts?10. 1:03:31 {Appropriate Motivation for Hard Work} Is it wrong to reward myself for doing the things I have to do? I worry that it might cause me to work for the wrong motives. But it's so hard to get myself to do things. Everything the Bible teaches about alcohol: HERE James 2 and the justification question: HERE https://BibleThinker.org

Delight in God's Word. This reading is from the NET Bible. Unlike most translations, the NET allows for people to use it as much as they want without worrying about getting special permissions for quoting long sections. This is why I'm using it here. The copyright warnings of most modern translations forbid me from making this kind of video without approval from the publisher. My website: https://BibleThinker.org

Helpful Links: What happens to people who never hear the Gospel?: Click Here How Jesus fulfilled Passover: Click Here Apologetics conference 2025 info: CLICK HERE for the conference website. I will not be speaking at or attending the conference this year, but I have in the past and I recommend it. 50% off the live stream - Promo code: MWLS50 30% off in-person registration - Promo code: MWPS30 Today's Time Stamps: 1. 0:51 {Is Ash Wednesday Biblical?} Could you share your thoughts on Ash Wednesday and how Christians should understand and approach the day? Is it exclusively a Catholic observance, or is there a way for non-Catholics to participate? Should we participate at all?2. 22:01 {Bethlehem vs. Nazareth?} Why is Jesus in Bethlehem when the wise men come in Matthew 2:7-11? Luke 2:22 and 2:39 say they returned to Nazareth after the 40 day purification rites. Did Matthew make up their hometown as Bethlehem?3. 29:16 {1,000 Year Reign: On Earth?} Is there biblical evidence that the 1,000 year reign of Christ as described in Revelation is on Earth? I hear a lot about the 1,000 year reign specifically being on Earth, but I fail to see the word “Earth” anywhere. 4. 34:22 {Ways our Worship Could Improve} What do you think about what the Bible teaches about principles of worship? How can our worship improve in the American Protestant churches?5. 41:27 {Does Calvinism Challenge God’s Justice?} I watched your video on Calvinism and it was amazing! But the question I still have is, does Calvinism go against God’s justice? God is just, and that’s a fact. Would that alone disprove Calvinism?6. 49:24 {Do God’s Children Deserve God’s Love?} We always say we don't "deserve anything" from God, but how biblical is this? Don't children deserve a degree of love from their parents?7. 54:43 {Passover vs. Yom Kippur} Why was Jesus' atoning sacrifice on Passover instead of Yom Kippur (the Day of Atonement)? I've looked everywhere but can't find an answer.8. 58:27 {The Calling of a Pastor} I’m 17 and have a huge desire to go into pastoral ministry. I feel called and equipped for this, but hear a lot of people say God has to speak to you directly to do this. Is my burden for this enough?9. 1:06:38 {Andrew’s vs. Peter’s Calling} Matthew 4:18-22 and John 1:35-42 seem to have two very different accounts of how Andrew and Peter were called to follow Christ. Can you please explain this?10. 1:11:24 {How to be a “Fisher of Men”} What does it mean to be “fishers of men”? A leader at my seeker church said it meant to use bait to get them in. Not sure if this is what Jesus meant. I do this live stream most Fridays at 1 p.m. Pacific Time. You're welcome to join. To ask a question in a future session, you'll need to follow these instructions: 1. Don't post your question before you see me live on camera. 2. Post questions as comments in the LIVE chat at the beginning of the stream. 3. Post your question with "Q" at the beginning so we can easily identify that you are sending it in as a question for me and not just a comment in the chat. 4. Try to be as clear as possible so I won't misunderstand the question. Keep in mind that I don't know anything about your question other than what you type in that short comment. 5. Include specific verse references when possible or applicable. 6. Only one question submitted per subscriber, per stream, please. Submitting the same question into the chat a few times is OK. 7. Please understand that we don't strictly take the first 10 questions submitted. Our team takes several factors into consideration. 8. Check the Clip Search on BibleThinker.org in advance to see if your topic of interest has already been covered in a past session. My website is searchable and all the video and audio content is free:https://BibleThinker.org

Today's Time Stamps: 1. 0:15 {Should We Expose Pastors?} Can you provide an overview of why it is biblical and right to expose abusive and harmful pastors and those who are in positions of Christian leadership?2. 33:41 {Fallen Angels – Past or Future?} I’ve heard someone say that Satan hasn’t taken a third of the heavenly angels yet, but will do it in the future (Revelation 12:3-4, 7-9). Is that a possibility?3. 38:35 {David’s Story: Exempting Accountability?} How should we respond to people who use the story of David and other flawed biblical figures, whom God still used, to justify their own sinful behavior, especially when in positions of power?4. 45:48 {Are Body Piercings Sinful?} What does the Bible say about piercings? If a woman who serves in the worship ministry gets a belly piercing, should she no longer be allowed to serve in that ministry?5. 50:31 {Indwelling of the Spirit: How it Differs} What about the indwelling of the Holy Spirit makes us unique compared to Old Covenant believers? I’ve never quite grasped what difference it makes.6. 53:22 {Does the Spirit Still Teach & Guide Us?} Jesus tells the apostles that the Holy Spirit will “teach them all things” (John 14:16) and “guide them into all the truth” (John 16:13). What exactly does this entail, and was it only for the apostles?7. 1:00:34 {Reuel vs. Jethro: Contradiction?} Is there an explanation for why Moses’ father-in-law appears to have two different names (Exodus 2:18 (Reuel) & Exodus 18:2 (Jethro))?8. 1:02:41 {Jonah: Failed Prophecies?} I recently had a Mormon claim it’s OK that Joseph Smith had failed prophecies because Jonah also did. He claimed Deuteronomy 18:22 didn’t apply to either of them. Thoughts?9. 1:09:28 {Shad., Mesh., & Abed…Did they Know?} In Daniel 3:16-18, how did Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego know that God would deliver them from the fiery furnace?10. 1:13:28 {Our Work in Eternity} Are there any hints in Scripture about what kind of work we will do in God's Kingdom in the future? My video on the false prophet Brandon Biggs: Click Here I do this live stream most Fridays at 1 p.m. Pacific Time. You're welcome to join.To ask a question, you'll need to follow these instructions:1. Don't post your question before you see me live on camera.2. Post questions as comments in the LIVE chat at the beginning of the stream.3. Post your question with "Q" at the beginning so we can easily identify that you are sending it in as a question for me and not just a comment in the chat.4. Try to be as clear as possible so I won't misunderstand the question. Keep in mind that I don't know anything about your question other than what you type in that short comment.5. Include specific verse references when possible or applicable.6. Only one question submitted per subscriber, per stream, please. Submitting the same question into the chat a few times is OK.7. Please understand that we don't strictly take the first 10 questions submitted. Our team takes several factors into consideration.8. Check the Clip Search on BibleThinker.org in advance to see if your topic of interest has already been covered in a past session. My website is searchable and all the video and audio content is free:https://BibleThinker.org

Pulling no punches. Leaving no reasonable room for doubt. This is part 5 in the Hebrews Series. Catch the whole playlist HERE. You can download the notes I used to teach this study HERE. Lots more on my website: https://BibleThinker.org

Question Time Stamps for Quick Reference:1. 0:26 {Prophecy Always Positive?} Is the gift of prophecy always supposed to yield a positive, uplifting revelation? 2. 20:38 {Praying Over Things?} What are your thoughts on praying over a house or object? Is that superstition?3. 24:23 {Giving Time vs. Money?} Is it ever OK to give time instead of money to church? How do we balance giving vs. saving, especially if giving might cause debt (Mark 12:41-44, Romans 13:1-8)? I also have a family to provide for.4. 31:18 {Parable of the Wedding Feast} Can you please explain the parable in Matthew 22:1-14 (The Parable of the Wedding Feast)? I don’t understand the meaning.5. 40:06 {Should I Be Rebaptized?} I fell out of the faith years ago and recently came back and feel like I should get baptized again. Is there anything for or against this in the Bible?6. 47:26 {Is God Selfish?} Do you believe that God is selfish in everything He does? It seems even His "selfless" acts are done for His own sake (Psalm 106:8, dying on the cross for His own glory, etc.). Would that motivation be wrong?7. 56:56 {Is Baptismal Regeneration Heresy?} Is believing that baptism is for the remission of sins based on Acts 2: 38 heresy? Is someone who was thusly baptized then not saved?8. 1:11:49 {Sinful Vows: Binding?} Are vows made in sin or amidst sinful circumstances still binding in eyes of God (Ecclesiastes 5:5, Joshua 9, Genesis 27, Judges 12)?9. 1:16:29 {Isaiah 14: About Satan?} Is Isaiah 14:3-20 about Satan? It says it is to the King of Babylon, but I have heard verses 12-14 used in reference to Satan. Just curious about your thoughts on it!10. 1:24:02 {Did David Violate Deut. 24?} How was David able to take Michal back as his wife? Isn’t that a violation of Deuteronomy 24, and does that apply today? My first video on Bethel showing the problem of faking prophecy: Click Here My second video on Bethel, showing there are major problems beyond what I was aware of in the first video. Bethel continues to have worldwide influence: Click Here Who wrote the Gospel of Mark? (lots of evidence): Click Here My website is searchable and all the video and audio content is free:https://BibleThinker.org I do this live stream most Fridays at 1 p.m. Pacific Time. You're welcome to join.To ask a question, you'll need to follow these instructions:1. Don't post your question before you see me live on camera.2. Post questions as comments in the LIVE chat at the beginning of the stream.3. Post your question with "Q" at the beginning so we can easily identify that you are sending it in as a question for me and not just a comment in the chat.4. Try to be as clear as possible so I won't misunderstand the question. Keep in mind that I don't know anything about your question other than what you type in that short comment.5. Include specific verse references when possible or applicable.6. Only one question submitted per subscriber, per stream, please. Submitting the same question into the chat a few times is OK.7. Please understand that we don't strictly take the first 10 questions submitted. Our team takes several factors into consideration.8. Check the Clip Search on BibleThinker.org in advance to see if your topic of interest has already been covered in a past session.

Special thanks to Living Waters ministry for letting us use their studio to record this conversation. My website: https://BibleThinker.org

Today's Time Stamps: 1. 0:20 {JD Vance’s Christian Concept} Is JD Vance’s “Christian concept” of love truly Christian?2. 28:00 {Resisting Temptation in the Workplace} What advice would you give to somebody who feels vulnerable to worldliness in the workplace? Not only do I spend most of my time there, but all of my coworkers knew me pre-salvation. It’s a struggle.3. 33:06 {Should Children be Taught about Hell?} What should children who would go to Heaven if they die be taught about Hell, if anything? It may make them afraid that they would go there. 4. 36:06 {The Unsaved: Prayer Priorities?} Is it appropriate to pray for the physical healing of an unsaved person? Isn’t it more reasonable to pray that they would come to faith in Christ? What is the "prayer priority" in this situation?5. 38:51 {Specific Moment of Salvation?} Do you have to have a specific date of salvation, or can salvation be a gradual thing/realization? This has been a debate within our current Bible study.6. 43:17 {God’s Omnipresence} Within God’s omnipresence, is that confined to spatial and spiritual dimensions? Or does that include Him being present across all of time, as well? As in He’s currently in all times all at once?7. 49:06 {Disqualifications for Serving?} What disqualifies someone from non-pastoral ministry? Are the rules for pastors the same for sound techs, ushers, etc.?8. 56:02 {Brands/Products: Letting in Spirits?} Are there specific brands or products that Christians shouldn‘t use? I’ve seen videos showing things like makeup products Christians shouldn't use because they let in spirits. Should I throw these away?9. 1:01:12 {Jacob’s Wrestling: Father or Son?} Do you believe Jacob wrestled with God the Father or God the Son (Hosea 12:4 and Genesis 32)?10. 1:06:44 {Tribulation Saints: Position in Heaven?} In the pre-tribulation view of the rapture, if the raptured Church is the Bride of Christ, then what position/purpose in Heaven do the tribulation saints hold? 11. 1:10:36 (Bonus) Prayer Request from Jacob: Can you and your listeners please pray for my sister Darby's pregnancy? The other day we found out she was having twins, but at the same time she was told she's most likely going to miscarry. The babies are measuring smaller than they should, with no heartbeats detected. Please join us in asking God to miraculously breathe life into her babies again. I do this live stream most Fridays at 1 p.m. Pacific Time. You're welcome to join.To ask a question in a future stream you'll need to follow these instructions:1. Don't post your question before you see me live on camera.2. Post questions as comments in the LIVE chat at the beginning of the stream.3. Post your question with "Q" at the beginning so we can easily identify that you are sending it in as a question for me and not just a comment in the chat.4. Try to be as clear as possible so I won't misunderstand the question. Keep in mind that I don't know anything about your question other than what you type in that short comment.5. Include specific verse references when possible or applicable. Helpful Links: Examples of Christophanies in the Old Testament: Click Here How Matthew uses the term "prophecy" and why people mistakenly think that the New Testament misuses Old Testament prophecy: Click Here How to Find Jesus in the Old Testament (my favorite series ever): Click Here Explaining why Jesus was not a failed prophet and why they should not have expected Him to come back in the 1st century: Click Here Here is The Hebrews Series playlist (verse-by-verse through the book): Click Here My video exposing the false prophet Brandon Biggs: Click Here My website is searchable and all the video and audio content is free:https://BibleThinker.org