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Join Manny, Noah, and Devan — three best friends and journalists — as they settle dumb arguments by actually doing the research.
Each week, they start with a debate or discussion. Why don’t men ask follow up questions? Should schools ban phones? Is dating an AI chatbot cheating? Then, they go out into the world, talk to experts, conduct experiments, and find the answer.
NO SUCH THING is an explainer podcast about pop culture, the internet, and whatever weird thing your group chat can’t agree on. If you’ve ever had a take so strong you had to fact-check it, this show is for you.
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This week, we present a remixed and remastered version of our third ever episode. Do you think you’d be able to successfully land a plane, with no prior pilot experience and relying only on air traffic control assistance? A YouGov survey found 13% of people are “very confident” that they could. In this episode, we explore why some people (like Manny) are prone to overconfidence, with help from social psychologist and professor David Dunning. And then, the boys take a trip to the Manhattan Flight Club to play around with a flight simulator.Stream Nothing Ever Happens by Darry Rahn For more, please subscribe to our newsletter at www.nosuchthing.show. Have a question you want us to answer? Email us at mannynoahdevan@gmail.com or leave a voicemail at (860) 325-0286See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week, we unpack the moral chaos of air travel. When flying, is it ever acceptable to recline your seat and claim those precious extra inches of space? Is there an ethical argument for reclining? Ergonomically, what is the most comfortable position? Why do we act like completely different people when we’re up in the air? And is this all a distraction from the real villains, greedy airlines? Our guest this week is Joshua Rothman, staff writer at The New Yorker. Read Josh’s New Yorker column: Should you recline your airplane seat? Travel + Leisure: Then vs. Now: The Evolution of Airfare Costs Over the Years AP: Scott Mayerowitz’s story on the” Knee Defender” flight diversion For more, subscribe to our newsletter. NST will be taking August off to work on some new episodes. We’ll be keeping the feed going with a few remastered classics and episodes of other shows we love. Thanks for listening and you’ll hear from us again in September! Have a question you want us to answer? Email us at mannynoahdevan@gmail.com or leave a voicemail at (860) 325-0286See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

For this edition of Devan Design Week, Devan Design Week II, we're going deep on bathrooms. We'll explore why hotels are getting rid of bathroom doors and walls, the movement to Bring Back Doors, whether bathroom sensors are actually racist, and if they're better for the environment and cleaner. Finally, we'll rank our favorite and least favorite bathroom locks. Our guests this week are: Sadie from Bring Back Doors Katie Deighton from The Wall Street Journal, who reported on hotels removing bathroom doors earlier this year Charlotte Gartenberg from the upcoming podcast Welcome to the Bathroom Julia Lindsay, lock aficionado ICYMI listen to Devan Design Week I (Tesla door handles, microwave buttons, modern-day couches) Subscribe to our newsletter and follow us on Instagram. Have a question you want us to answer? Email us at mannynoahdevan@gmail.com or leave a voicemail at (860) 325-0286See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week, we unpack what makes a generation. From the Silent Generation to the Zoomers and beyond, are these groupings only useful to stir up competition and resentment? How did Gen Z become more conservative, more pessimistic AND more empathetic than their predecessors? We also explore recent research on a troubling trend of declining IQ scores. Does this back up an argument that millennials are the group most well-equipped for life in the modern age? Our guests this week are researcher Elizabeth M. Dworak from Northwestern University and Jean M. Twenge PhD, author of Generations: The Real Differences Between Gen Z, Millennials, Gen X, Boomers, and Silents—and What They Mean for America's Future. (Buy the book here.) Related links: Dr. Dworak’s IQ research: Looking for Flynn effects in a recent online U.S. adult sample: Examining shifts within the SAPA Project James Flynn’s TED Talk: Why our IQ levels are higher than our grandparents' The New Yorker on Jean Twenge: Where Millennials Come From (2017) Tom Wolfe for New York Magazine: The “Me” Decade (1976) An interesting counterpoint, on Bobby Duffy’s “The Generation Myth”: It’s Time to Stop Talking About Generations More on the Reverse Flynn Effect from New York Mag: A Theory of Dumb You might also like NST #59: Kids can’t read anymore. Does it matter? (with author Jason Reynolds) Subscribe to our newsletter. Have a question you want us to answer? Email us at mannynoahdevan@gmail.com or leave a voicemail at (860) 325-0286See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week, we're presenting a remastered version of our VERY FIRST EPISODE. Take a walk down NST memory lane, or visit for the first time, and stick around until the end to hear a quick conversation looking back on one of our earliest arguments. What began as an innocent debate soon devolved into accusations of deception and trickery. Is it misleading to say you read a book if, in actuality, you listened to it as an audiobook? And do you absorb information the same way when listening compared to reading? With some help from Dr. Virginia Clinton-Lisell, Associate Professor at University of North Dakota, we get an answer. If you liked this episode, you might like NST #59: Kids can't read anymore. Does it matter? (with author Jason Reynolds) Here’s a link to Dr. Clinton-Lisell’s meta-analysis of reading and listening comprehension comparisons. She’s on TikTok, YouTube, Threads, and Bluesky. Buy Manny's book Colored People Time here! For more, please subscribe to our newsletter at www.nosuchthing.show. Have a question you want us to answer? Email us at mannynoahdevan@gmail.com or leave a voicemail at (860) 325-0286See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It's the World Cup episode. Manny, Noah, and Devan, are joined by two of the hosts of the Soccernomics podcast — Stefan Szymanski and Ashish Malhotra — to discuss the overlap between Soccer, economics, and culture. Is soccer a form of human trafficking? What's the real reason why the English hate the word soccer? Why does the US men's soccer team struggle, historically? All of that and more. Check out our newsletter at nosuchthing.show and follow us on Instagram @nosuchthing.show. Have a question you want us to answer? Email us at mannynoahdevan@gmail.com or leave a voicemail at (860) 325-0286 See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On today’s episode, a special collaboration with Kate Lindsay from ICYMI, we discuss how payment apps like Venmo have changed our relationship with money. We talk through how to navigate different money situations with friends and answer your money etiquette questions. Our guests this week are: Lizzie Post, co-president of the Emily Post Institute and co-host of the Awesome Etiquette Podcast and Emily Post's Wedding Stories podcast. Beth Pinsker, a columnist at MarketWatch, Certified Financial Planner, and author of My Mother's Money. Listen to ICYMI with Kate Lindsay. Check out Kate’s other episodes with the NST crew: Why can’t adults order from the kids' menu? Are outdoor cats happier than indoor cats? See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On today’s episode, we dive into the health effects of diet sodas like Diet Coke, Coke Zero, and Diet Pepsi. Trump has said that Diet Coke actually kills cancer, while other studies have linked these drinks to dementia and one of their artificial sweeteners, aspartame, to cancer. Noah also takes on the Fat Joe challenge, attempting to drink 30–40 Diet Pepsis in a single day. Our guests this week are: Michael Easter, diet soda head, journalist, and creator of the Two Percent podcast and newsletter. Adam Chandler, food columnist at The Wall Street Journal. Giles Yeo, author of Why Calories Don’t Count and a professor at the University of Cambridge who studies the genetics of body weight and how the brain controls feeding behavior. If you’re new here, listen to episode 15: Why does Dasani water taste like that and check out our NST starter pack. Check out our newsletter at nosuchthing.show and follow us on Instagram @nosuchthing.show. Have a question you want us to answer? Email us at mannynoahdevan@gmail.com or leave a voicemail at (860) 325-0286 See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We’re doing a money etiquette episode! Submit your questions, horror stories and other scenarios for us to discuss by leaving a voicemail at 860-325-0286 or sending an email to mannynoahdevan@gmail.com You can hardly go for a drive, take a walk in the neighborhood, or turn on a television without being bombarded by ridiculous ads for personal injury lawyers. Are these flamboyant characters legitimate legal representation or scammers? This week, we find out how personal injury firms work, why they advertise so heavily, and how to discern a legit lawyer from a scammy "settlement mill" looking for a quick pay-day. Our guests this week are personal injury lawyer John Morgan (Morgan & Morgan), Stanford legal scholar Nora Freeman Engstrom and journalist Jose Martinez from The City Reporter. Read about Prof. Engstrom's paper on competition and contingency fees here. Jose Martinez for The City Reporter: ‘Billboard Lawyers’ Defend Ads and Tactics Amid MTA Push for Lawsuit Reform You can buy John Morgan's memoir "Life is Luck" here. For more, subscribe to our newsletter. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On today's episode, Manny asks whether Noah and Devan want kids, as a part of a conversation about the declining birth rate around the world. They hear from Anna Louie Sussman, author of the upcoming book "Inconceivable: The Impossibility of Family in an Age of Uncertainty," about what's actually causing the birth rate to decline, and then Manny has a heartfelt conversation with writer (and fellow dad) Derek Thompson. Preorder Anna's book here, and check out Derek's Substack here. Check out our newsletter at nosuchthing.show and follow us on Instagram @nosuchthing.show. Have a question you want us to answer? Email us at mannynoahdevan@gmail.com or leave a voicemail at (860) 325-0286 See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.